Thread: Wild/vild For Light Sleepers!

I wake up really easily too. I don't understand how anyone cannot be waken by sudden light by opening a door near you.

Yes, light sleepers means that you wake up easily, but usually that also means that it is harder to fall asleep.... if you wake up easily, and fall asleep easily, then I envy you!!!

BTW, I still haven't tried SKA's method yet, but that is because in the past few days I have had the cold, and it is hard to relax with a blocked nose and lots of coughing!

Good luck again... are you getting sick of me saying good luck? -Stoat

My mind also wanders a lot, but I've somehow wired my brain to occasionally pick up on the fact that I'm WILDing so I somehow barely stay concious all the way through the Sleep-Paralysis.

This is what happens to me when I attempt the WILD
1. Start seeing colors and somtimes flashes (like flashes of lightning but not as bright)
2. Eventually I'll start hearing jumbled noises and very distorted images (semi-unconcious at this point)
3. HI starts to become more vivid, also my brain tends to change what I was originally thinking about and it becomes very random
4/5. HI actually becomes pretty clear, like I'm viewing someone else's dream almost*
4/5. HI abruptly ends, and I feel my body fall into myself and the onset of SP occurs. This is the point at which I jump back to the waking state and lucidity begins.
6. I'll hear random sounds, sometimes creepy ones, along with a common static-like noise.
7. I'll start feeling vibrations, which vary from light to intensly powerful.*
8. I roll off my bed (dream-body) and the dream begins. I'm blind at first, I just feel myself floating around, and then soon I'll have vision and be somewhere inside of my room in most cases.

* = doesn't always happen

Is number 3 the problem you have? If so, I suggest donig WILD while WBTB, that way it will happen fast enough that you are able to remain concious all the way through, even when your mind does wander off. I simply cannot do WILDs at night because it takes to long to get to step 4/5 for me, and I'm also asking now somewhere else if it's possible to do it during a mid-day nap.

(I also do have a past of random Sleep-Paralysis so that undoubtably does help me a little, so it may more difficult for you even if I may have the same thing in common)

Being restless actually could be used as a advantage for WBTB. I've had morning where I woke up and wondered if I would be able to fall back asleep, and out of nowhere I'm falling into SP skipping alot of my usual steps (but this is like after an hour of tossing and turning).

Originally Posted by blade5x

Is number 3 the problem you have? If so, I suggest donig WILD while WBTB, that way it will happen fast enough that you are able to remain concious all the way through, even when your mind does wander off. I simply cannot do WILDs at night because it takes to long to get to step 4/5 for me, and I'm also asking now somewhere else if it's possible to do it during a mid-day nap.

(I also do have a past of random Sleep-Paralysis so that undoubtably does help me a little, so it may more difficult for you even if I may have the same thing in common)

Being restless actually could be used as a advantage for WBTB. I've had morning where I woke up and wondered if I would be able to fall back asleep, and out of nowhere I'm falling into SP skipping alot of my usual steps (but this is like after an hour of tossing and turning).
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No... actually my problem would be in your list... reaching number one. What I see is dull random colours (mostly green and purple) which I doubt is HI.

I always do WILD's during WBTB, the problem is though that I'm so tired my mind will wander uncontrolably and I will fall asleep.

As for Sleep-Paralysis, I've never had it in my life.

I read that for chronic insomniacs it helps to use SMR frequences with binaural beats or something like that. At least I read that in the Neuro-Programmer 2 material. I'm working with that program now to try to help me get in the right mindset for lucid dreaming.

I like those binaural things, I don't know why, they don't seem to change you at all (or maybe it's just me.....).

BTW, I haven't been practising WILD much lately, but I have been using SKA's technique to help me fall asleep! I have been imagining me walking on the bridge, which is hanging lower and lower until it is engulfed in the mist (unconsiousness). I then walk out of the mist into a mind generated place, and from there I don't know what happens, I usually just fall asleep soon after I enter the place!

Hoping for more replies -Stoat!

Originally Posted by Stoat

I like those binaural things, I don't know why, they don't seem to change you at all (or maybe it's just me.....).

BTW, I haven't been practising WILD much lately, but I have been using SKA's technique to help me fall asleep! I have been imagining me walking on the bridge, which is hanging lower and lower until it is engulfed in the mist (unconsiousness). I then walk out of the mist into a mind generated place, and from there I don't know what happens, I usually just fall asleep soon after I enter the place!

Hoping for more replies -Stoat!
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Seems like you were close to a Real dream though.. Did that Brigde appear more and more realistic? And that Room you imagined? Was that of Realistic DreamQuality yet?

Well I suppose since the Endless Bridge is a constant reminder of Staying Concious you shoudl attempt to enter the ''myst''(subconcious) and just keep walking on the Bridge: The room may have been your Mind's Ultimate Distraction from staying concious. And Subconciousness gotcha and whirled your long maintained conciousness out of the window.


Perhaps you may have more success if you keep that Reminder of Maintaining Conciousness untill that very scene that keeps you concious, becomes more and more realistic and becomes a dream...All the way untill you notice your Enviroment is somewhat Stable and Consistent like a Real Dream.


From there you could probably fly off, create a door and go through it and enter other dreamscenes...But NOT unless you're fully submerged into the (subconcious) Dreaming Mind.

I'm going to try it tonight and tomorrow morning in an WBTBT fashion.