i tried this technique for quite some time and had no success |
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Hi, I've been trying to achieve lucidity in a dream for a while now without success. I was wondering has anyone been able to achieve a WILD without having 5-6 hours sleep first. I think I was close to entering it on a few occasions but never sucessful. |
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i tried this technique for quite some time and had no success |
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Matt Reynolds
Cultural Anthropology & Folklore
This is pretty much the only technique I've been working on, except for DILD. I too have come close without 5-6 hours of sleep beforehand, but have never been successful. I have tried several times after sleeping 5-6 hours, but I always fall asleep before anything happens. |
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Hmm... From what I know of the sleep cycle, it is almost impossible to have a WILD at the beginning of the night since the first REM period doesn't come until up to an hour after you've fallen asleep - but as the night progresses the REMs get longer and occur much more frequently so that if you wake after 5-6 hours you will fall asleep and a REM period will be almost immediate, making it possible for you to try a WILD |
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Be aware of your thoughts, for your thoughts become words
Choose your words, for your words become actions
Control your actions, for your actions become habits
Watch your habits, for your habits become your destiny...
In short, our thoughts become our lives
I don't understand this concept, how is taking a nap and doing a WILD any different from doing one first thing before you have 5-6 hours of sleep at night? |
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I can't say I really know anything about what you're talkinga bout , but I said plausible because of that incredibly cool blind spot trick .
- EmmDoubleEw
yeah I guess it's the ''wellrestedness'' that can be the Perfect state of Mind to do a WILD. |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
hmmmmm interesting. Maybe an afternoon nap is what I need to get my WILD flowing. I have been trying to WILD for a while and all that has happened for me so far is that my body feels very numb and tingly and either I concentrate really well and do not fall asleep for hours or i let my mind wander and I fall unconscious. |
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the numb tingly feeling is good - that means you're starting to go into sleep paralysis. The trick is to focus just enough to maintain awareness, but not so much that you stay awake |
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Be aware of your thoughts, for your thoughts become words
Choose your words, for your words become actions
Control your actions, for your actions become habits
Watch your habits, for your habits become your destiny...
In short, our thoughts become our lives
Taking an afternoon nap is when its natural for people to take a nap because a long time ago humans took them to get out of the heat and thats why some tropical tribe people take them. |
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It's because you insta enter REM. |
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You have all said very interesting things. Thanks for the advise. |
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Well with me |
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I had a beautiful experience last night. I was trying to WILD before going to sleep and I just let my mind wander a bit, I then focused on my breathing but I was still relaxed so that my mind could wander some more. Then suddenly when I wasn't paying attention my body hit a wall of pure numb happiness. Everything went numb but like never before. I started to feel that my body was in SP but not fully, I also felt as though I were inside my head, but again not fully. The sounds of the road outside started to seem very distant. I got my heart rate to go down and relaxed. But I was just in a Black Void, nothing was happening. After a While I tried to think of a dream scene but nothing happened. I don't think I was fully in SP but I was damn close. I decided to move after a bit just incase I was already dreaming and I didn't realise it. So I opened my eyes and tired to move my arms. They felt very very heavy and this took some effot. I did a RC but alas, I was not dreaming. It was a good thing however as it showed me what to do next time, and what not to do. It was so relaxing to feel SP, my body was sort of rigid and it felt weird, also my saliva was pouring out of my open mouth hahahah. But as I relaxed and calmed down It felt great to be like that. I love that feeling.! |
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man, I didn't even get close to SP last night and I tried before sleep and after 4 hours. I was falling unconscious too easily and had no focus. Maybe that means that I simply need more sleep. I do see from time to time posts saying that you must be well rested before attemping a WILD so that you can consentrate without falling unconscious but I never heeded the message before. hmmmmm interesting street. |
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Tom, that reminds me of an experience I had a few days ago. I was taking an afternoon nap because I was tired and figured it would be a good opportunity to try a WILD. I got really relaxed and after a while felt my body get really numb. Like your experience, it was numb unlike its ever been before. Unfortunately, my brother started a load of laundry and it sort of snapped my concentration. Anyway, it was really cool! |
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ahhh cool, man. I tried last night to get that feeling back but nothing happened at all. I even found it hard just to go to sleep like normal because my heart was beating really hard all night for some reason. I feel a bit lost with all this now. I don't really know what to do. I can't seem to get past feeling a bit numb. Keep tying I guess. |
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That's great! I've tried WILD without 5-6 hours sleep or a nap first, and I got very close too. I couldn't move my body, or hear any ambient sounds, and I was swinging back and forward. It was awesome. I'm going to try WILD after the 61-point relaxation technique and see how it works. |
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Neko.. uh what is with your sig pic? I sure hope you didn't make that |
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Yeah, I'm sort of stuck there too. I can get to the numb stage, but then I'm not sure what to do. My heart doesn't really beat any faster, it just becomes a lot easier for me to notice it. Does it actually beat harder, or am I just more aware of it for some reason??? I'm not sure... |
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Thats where I get stuck too (if even I get that far) I don't know what next to do. If I try to think of a dream scape nothing happens? |
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First of all, naps and full night sleep are different. I guess there are different kinds of naps, but the ones I'm having have very little REM. I'm trying to keep all my naps at 1.5+ hrs and often I can remember dream barely starting by the time I wake up. So I wouldnt say that naps are "Insta REM". |
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Ev, I replyed to another post that you did and I totally agree with what you are saying. I think you have hit the nail on the head completely, this is exactly why I have not been able to WILD. Man! |
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I can get pretty deep into relaxation or a trance or whatever, and time goes by quick, but after an hour or so, I try to change positions to go to sleep and I feel really sore. |
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