Sleep Deprivation Might Actually Work

[blade5x]

Ok, during a period where I had 3 exams in two days, I stayed up for a total of 38 hours or so. I managed it off two power naps. I slept a total of 2 hours that entire period, but the powernaps kept me going, and feeling well and normal. When the period was over, I went to sleep like normal. I went at 10PM, set my alarm to 5AM to see what kind of affect it would have for my WILD. Well, at 5AM, after my alarm had been going off for like 5 minutes before I finally woke up, I must have had the easiest sleep paralysis I've ever induced in my life. I was laying in my bed, and the next moment I noticed I was in this very hazy, wierd non-physical environment - sleep paralysis. Except, this time, I was feeling the most powerful vibrations I've felt in months. So powerful, and so loud was the noise, that I was freaking out. I kept snapping out of it, only to be sucked back into it as soon as I closed my eyes again. After this happened about 5 times in the span of like 2 minutes, I was finally able to skip over that chaotic, vibrating, defeaning stage, and immediatly enter a dream. So, if you can skip a night of sleep, if you take 3 powernaps - one when you'd normally go to sleep, another at 7-8AM another at about 12PM, your sleep cycle should be fine, because I was tired at 10PM when I finally went back to my normal sleep (and I usually go to sleep at 12-1AM). The powernaps allow you to function normally and feel fine, so you can avoid the "I feel like shit" after staying awake for a long period of time. Also, keep yourself active, or else you'll just be tempted to go to sleep. 1. You are going to be tired obviously from being up many hours when attempting to have a lucid dream the next morning. 2. Your mind is trying to make up for lost REM - I think that's why I was getting sucked into sleep paralysis almost against my will. Just thought I'd share, because I wasn't expecting something good to come out of skipping a night's sleep

[Dice]

Interesting, but I wonder how it could work. I thought when you've been deprived from sleep too long, all your body does is entering the deep sleep, which is an unconscious state?

[Howie]

I have wondered this myself. It seems if you stick to a regular sleep regiment that it helps aid lucid dreaming. I agree that sleep deprivation does work! I have plowed snow for several years now. This makes sleeping sometimes very irregular and sometimes in frequent. I have experience the same thing you have. I wonder if the brain is playing catch up in some manner? If you think about deprivation. Depriving your body of anything leads to your mind/body require it. So it may take what it can when it can, as much as it can. Instinctively maybe?

[Dm7]

Interesting, but I wonder how it could work. I thought when you've been deprived from sleep too long, all your body does is entering the deep sleep, which is an unconscious state? [/b] This stage is called Delta. For most people, yes, it is an unconscious state, but it doesn't mean that you're purely knocked out. You can learn how to stay conscious in delta stage by meditation and advanced trance practices. Basically, you can be conscious all night if you want to if you mastered to be conscious in Delta stage as well. I have been there before. It's a state where your thoughts aren't there. Just a blank bliss state with the whole new way of communicating without thoughts... or anything for that matter. Hard to explain. Very different from Theta waves (REM). And for sleep deprivation, it usually works for me too, but only with naps not when I sleep deeply to catch up. But again, my sleep deprivations always are severe. *shrugs*

[blade5x]

This stage is called Delta. For most people, yes, it is an unconscious state, but it doesn't mean that you're purely knocked out. You can learn how to stay conscious in delta stage by meditation and advanced trance practices. Basically, you can be conscious all night if you want to if you mastered to be conscious in Delta stage as well. I have been there before. It's a state where your thoughts aren't there. Just a blank bliss state with the whole new way of communicating without thoughts... or anything for that matter. Hard to explain. Very different from Theta waves (REM). And for sleep deprivation, it usually works for me too, but only with naps not when I sleep deeply to catch up. But again, my sleep deprivations always are severe. *shrugs* [/b] I've always wondered what that state was like? Do you have any sense of time? And by communicating, what exactly do you communicate with? Is it like "you just know", but that kind of contradicts "no thoughts"... I wouldn't mind being able to stay concious in deep sleep, it sounds very relaxing.

[Dm7]

I've always wondered what that state was like? Do you have any sense of time? And by communicating, what exactly do you communicate with? Is it like "you just know", but that kind of contradicts "no thoughts"... I wouldn't mind being able to stay concious in deep sleep, it sounds very relaxing. [/b] Time doesn't exist in this trance. The best way I can describe it is something like this... A state where you communicate without thoughts, pictures, languages, math, or anything for that matter. Only your emotions flow through you. You understand even though there are no thoughts. Everything become still, yet you comphend more than you did in your waking life. Again, in waking life, you think you must think of something in order to communicate, but in this trance, you become free from your ego and your language... really, it's like abstract compared to language. In other word, "you just know". It is opposite to what you are used with right now, your waking consciousness. Yes, it can be relaxing and very refreshing, but it takes years to reach this consciously. At least for most yogis practicers, it took them years to reach that delta stage consciously. I'm not saying it's impossible to reach, but it's hard to achieve. Did that help?

[guyver227]

Indeed it does! I didnt sleep for two days and when i did, i had total lucidity. It was really awesome!

[Howie]

A state where you communicate without thoughts, pictures, languages, math, or anything for that matter. Only your emotions flow through you. You understand even though there are no thoughts. Everything become still, yet you comphend more than you did in your waking life. Again, in waking life, you think you must think of something in order to communicate, but in this trance, you become free from your ego and your language... really, it's like abstract compared to language. In other word, "you just know". It is opposite to what you are used with right now, your waking consciousness. Yes, it can be relaxing and very refreshing, but it takes years to reach this consciously. At least for most yogis practicers, it took them years to reach that delta stage consciously. I'm not saying it's impossible to reach, but it's hard to achieve.[/b] The author, Eckart Tolle has a few books about this. Free from our ego. An awareness process of how attached to the ego we are and the realization that we have conditioned thought processes help to begin in understanding. Understanding a liberated state of consciousness Some call it our egoic entity.

[SKA]

yeah I noticed that when I stopped trying to get a Lucid Dream and live the nightlife again, getting up at irregulair tims and going to sleep at irregular and usually late times would give most vivid and lucid dreams. I guess it is the ''messing around'' with the sleepcycle that slurs up the stages of sleep making your Mindstate a more wakefull one while in deeper stages of sleep. I just havn't found out how it is done exactly, just happened to hit it exidentally.

[Torcher]

Full props to SleepDep. It's the most consistent trick in the book for me but it can be a chaotic and 'tiring' way to enjoy LDs.

[juroara]

my friend is a night owl with horrible sleeping habits! needless to say she pretty much WILDd on her first try. But for those of us who have to actually get up in the morning, I wouldnt recommend that! also, napping in the evening constantly is an easy way to get sleep parlysis - thats how I first learned of it. though napping in the evening can be really unhealthy!

[Howie]

Why this works. There is something they consider REM rebound. When the brain is deficient of sleep it, when it cans triggers a response of much needed REM sleep. As a result - lots of REM, possible lucid dreaming. Just as our body works with anything you deprive it of. It tries to make it up wherever and however it can.