How Exactly Do You Get Into A Lucid Through Sp?

[dreamerer]

Ok, so I can get into sleep paralysis pretty easily, but where do I go from there? Atleast I'm assuming that I'm fully into SP, because I can't move unless I send a very, very strong signal to do so. I can get to the point where I become sort of "unattached" to my limbs. But what do I do next? Apparently I'm supposed to go into a WILD, but while I'm in SP, nothing happens. At all. I'm just sitting there, not able to move. Can anyone please give me some advice?

[juroara]

you should try to relax at this point, even more so than you have before, and look foward to some vivid HI. when the vivid HIs come youre getting close to completing the WILD!

[slothming]

whatever you do when you WILD, dont ever panic or get frustrated , try not to let your thoughts drift instead pin point all your consciousness into 1 single thought, relax even more as you start to see HI', and eventually the HI will drag you into your dream state. If you come to a complete stop, and you feel unattached to your body do a Reality Check, you never know.

[dreamerer]

Ok guys, thanks for the advice. I'll try again tonight.

[LucidDreamGod]

I wouldn't know, I can't get even close to sp within an hour of lying still, lucky deep sleepers, or maybe you get to sleep real fast, I can't even get to sleep in an hour at night

[Never]

I end up in this state a lot because I have been attempting to confirm for myself whether or not Astral Projection is real. I usually spend an hour or so attempting to achieve this and end up exhausted and fall asleep. Later on I usually wake just enough to be aware that my body is paralyzed. Because of my practice with sp induction the rest is easy. Just think about nothing if you can and just feel yourself float upward; usually for me it is quick...like being pulled out of your body. Of course I am not actually leaving my body but taking advantage of my lucidity through the idea of astral projection. From there I just fly away and enjoy the rest of the night. To put it simple...just relax and maintain a meditative state; the rest follows. Perhaps this is because I expect the rest to happen. It might work for you, it might not.

[blade5x]

I end up in this state a lot because I have been attempting to confirm for myself whether or not Astral Projection is real. I usually spend an hour or so attempting to achieve this and end up exhausted and fall asleep. Later on I usually wake just enough to be aware that my body is paralyzed. Because of my practice with sp induction the rest is easy. Just think about nothing if you can and just feel yourself float upward; usually for me it is quick...like being pulled out of your body. Of course I am not actually leaving my body but taking advantage of my lucidity through the idea of astral projection. From there I just fly away and enjoy the rest of the night. To put it simple...just relax and maintain a meditative state; the rest follows. Perhaps this is because I expect the rest to happen. It might work for you, it might not. [/b] That's pretty much how it began with me. I wanted to see AP was real so I began inducing SP all the time, except my experiences just kept getting more and more "fake", so I sort of gave up. However, my method of "rolling out of my body" has stuck with me. You just pretty much try and roll yourself off your bed (only while in SP!&#33, and your dream (or astral) body should detach itself and away you float!

[eggbert]

Ok, so I can get into sleep paralysis pretty easily, but where do I go from there? Atleast I'm assuming that I'm fully into SP, because I can't move unless I send a very, very strong signal to do so. I can get to the point where I become sort of "unattached" to my limbs. [/b] PLEASE EXPLAIN I have yet to reach SP, and have tried WILD sooo many times. Please tell me how you achieve it!

[fleeee1]

eggbert, i know what you mean. all of my LD's have been DILD's, no WILD's yet. my main problem is that it takes SOOOOOO long. then when you don't get there, it's super frustrating. i think the goal for all of us on/at this forum is to be able to LD at will whenever we feel like it... i'd hate to think you had to lie there "awake" (trying to get to SP/HI) for 1+ hours (at 4 AM after waking up in the middle of the night) every time you want to have a LD. sorry, i know i'm not answering your question... i'm empathizing.

[LucidDreamGod]

yes same here, I've been meditating for over an hour in the morning and I havn't even come close, I guess people like me were never born to wild It's kind of ashame because I'm so much more into lucid dreaming then most master wilders I see on here, who wild every so often just because "it seems interesting" no names mentioned

[dreamerer]

Well, what I have been trying is the "detatch yourself from your body while in sleep paralysis" technique.

[blade5x]

Well, what I have been trying is the "detatch yourself from your body while in sleep paralysis" technique. [/b] You also really need to convince yourself that your floating out into the middle of your room, or else you might just end up floating into a dark void and not seeing anything.

[dreamerer]

You also really need to convince yourself that your floating out into the middle of your room, or else you might just end up floating into a dark void and not seeing anything. [/b] Oh yeah, lol, good point.

[Never]

One thing I would recommend is that the next time you are lucid, before you end the dream, try to teleport to where your body is; this will usually wake you up just enough to be aware of the dull sensation of your body. From there attempt to "project" and it should be easy because you are still "asleep". It seems like a contradiction but trust me, once you see how simple it is, it becomes easier. When I do this it often gives me better clarity as well, almost like "refueling". It was another side effect of me attempting to astral project from a dream.

[Torcher]

Would like to comment that SP cannot be missed. Proper SP feels like you're being run over by an invisible, painless freight train. It can be difficult to focus in that condition. It has to happen enough for you to get used to it so it doesn't make you uneasy. Lying on your back will make SP more probable to occur. I've never been able to do the 'detatchment from the body' bit, although it happened by accident a few times. I try to focus my mind on an imaginary scene or landscape while trying to feel my whole person in that new setting. When it works, I shift directly into that setting. I have enough of a visual by then that I can usually take a small portion of what I am seeing and focus on it until the dreamworld solidifies around me. Everyone is different, however. Good luck with it

[HockeyIsLife]

Quick Question. A couple of times while screwing up during my LD's, I have woken up into SP. Is it then possible to use a WILD from that point? Thanks

[bentrider08]

Well, since we're on SP...I've tried WILD a grand total of four times. two attempts in last night. I can get into SP pretty easily, I read up on sythix's technique and I can get insanely numb in about 20-30 min. I don't seem to get bright colors so much, I see scenes or faces, so far it's been a little scary but I've gotten rid of them, or have gotten used to them since I got it explained what they were. I think I know when I start dreaming when these images and scenes begin to move and do things on their own, if that's the case I've dreamed from SP but I don't seem to get lucid, I'll be so relaxed that I'll just lose all will to do anything and I simply lose conciousness. Is this just because I'm new at trying WILD or is it because I am doing something wrong. What should I be doing? How many attempts should I approximately have, taking into account how SP is pretty easy for me, before I have a good chance of getting lucid? Is it all in the mind then?

[dreamerer]

Would like to comment that SP cannot be missed. Proper SP feels like you're being run over by an invisible, painless freight train. It can be difficult to focus in that condition. It has to happen enough for you to get used to it so it doesn't make you uneasy. Lying on your back will make SP more probable to occur. I've never been able to do the 'detatchment from the body' bit, although it happened by accident a few times. I try to focus my mind on an imaginary scene or landscape while trying to feel my whole person in that new setting. When it works, I shift directly into that setting. I have enough of a visual by then that I can usually take a small portion of what I am seeing and focus on it until the dreamworld solidifies around me. Everyone is different, however. Good luck with it [/b] Well according to you, I wasn't actually in full SP. I think mine was more like "being runover by an invisible, painless horse. I guess I should try working on getting deeper.

[Dirtbiker_CRF]

I don't think that im in full SP. My body tingles, i once heard rap music, (no one in my house ever listens to it...) and i can feel my pulse extremely clearly wherever i focus. But thats the farthest that ive gotten. i could never just not move, but i didn't feel my body when i heard the music, then i remembered i was wilding and lost the music and found my body. D:

[Theresa]

I don't think that im in full SP. My body tingles, i once heard rap music, (no one in my house ever listens to it...) and i can feel my pulse extremely clearly wherever i focus. But thats the farthest that ive gotten. i could never just not move, but i didn't feel my body when i heard the music, then i remembered i was wilding and lost the music and found my body. D: [/b] To me, that sounds more like you're just in deep meditation. When you meditate, sounds often become very amplified (and other senses), like you mentioned hearing your pulse. In SP, you cannot move no matter how hard you will yourself to.

[Dirtbiker_CRF]

oh, thanx, any advice on how to get into SP from there, thanx!