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Thank you, I will consider that. But I already tried (with no success) the "visualize numbers while counting" when reading the WILD tutorial, so I think it's not a method that would work for me.
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Thanks for your reply MindDaquerreotype. I have the very same problem with the counting methods combined with telling myself I am dreaming. They just keep me awake. But visualizing the word DEEPER, or the words DEEPER AND DEEPER seem to work really well for me. I've never been quite as persistent as you have though because I have always given up after reaching 100, so I admire your persistence. I'm also finding it helpful to just stop doing everything after a while to allow my mind to drift to sleep. And if nothing else works, I just get up and have a cheese sandwich or take a hot bath to put me to sleep. Fortunately though I have not had to do that lately.

Quote Originally Posted by MindDaguerreotype View Post
I tried it last night. I was real awake at the time, but my eyes hurt (I think some skin medication got in 'em) so it was bed time. The technique may have helped me get sleepier, or maybe I was more tired than I thought, 'cause I fell asleep in about 20 minutes, which is about average for me. BUT, I had My first LD last night! I'm gonna do some experimentation, maybe it was your technique (if so, thanks&#33, maybe it was luck...
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Thanks for your reply Xnyper. In doing the exercises I am finding that they work best when done in a very slow sweeping type of motion, and the slower the better, as moving the eyes very slowly tends to slow down the rest of my body and makes it drowsy enough to falls asleep. CONGRATULATIONS !!! Glad to hear you had your first lucid dream. I'd guess it was probably luck, but who knows. I hope you have many more.