Thread: My Mind Trying To Stop Me From Being Lucid?

Hypnagogic imagery isn't the only type of hypnagogia. There is also hypnagogic sound hallucinations, which is what you're experiencing. On the verge between waking and sleep it's common to hear and see things that aren't really there - the illusions, both visual and audio, that appear due to sleep onset.

i know about those, i mean the sounds i get are ALWAYS the same. also, when i try to wild, the pattern is like this:

nothing --> hi --> sounds and hi

is it common to have the same sounds every time, because for me they always seem to be. its always a high pitched type of sound that repeats over and over and seems to get louder/closer each time it repeats. even the hi i get seems to be the same.

its almost like the whole thing follows a pattern for me, but it always seems to get me at the very last part.

If you are truly experiencing a WILD onset it is possible to slightly alter the images/sounds/whatever.

It sounds to me like you are focusing all of your attention on these sounds. And there's almost like a law with WILD - the more you focus on some aspect of the onset the stronger it becomes. Therefore I recommend not paying attention to any onset. Just monitor the duration of the onset and once you pass a minute or two mark open your eyes and do a RC...

As for following a specific pattern, I havent experienced that. I used to hear different variations of "wake up" , or "it's time to get up" said by different voices... But that's as close as it gets. This is part of the reason why I recommend ignoring all and any hallucinations you experience during WILD.

I'm curious about HI/sounds. Do they occur when your brain stops receiving input from your body, or something?

@Lordalmar: I've been reading up on WILD'ing recently, and your experience sounds like what some of the guides described.

This is from Seeker's The Five Phases of Wild tutorial.

Originally posted by Seeker
Along with images, you may experience sounds. It might be a mild and soothing sound, or it could become quite scarey. I've have heard loud sounds like the screeching of tearing metal. Just remain passive and watchful, do not allow it to scare you into full conciousness.

Can't really say whether or not hearing/seeing the same thing every time is normal, but I'd guess that it's pretty common.

ok, i will try that. i think i am getting close, and i will get it soon. i just have to figure out the part i am missing. i don't give up easy, not untill i get what i want. in this case though, i won't give up once i have it.