Thread: Talking to your Subconscious question:

Hmm sometimes I shoot ideas back and forth when I am dreaming to myself, although I have never had full on converstion with myself, and I do not know if you could make promises with your subconsious since it is your unaware self. But it might be possible.

TalkingHead, I mentally talk to my subconscious asking for its help with realizing when I am dreaming so that I can become lucid. I also ask for help in reminding me to do reality checks and for help remaining within the dream until I wish for it to end and for help in remembering my experiences.
.

You mean in waking life? Yes, I just completed a Subliminal MP3 (Which I can't find a host for) which speaks directly to the subconscious. The trick is to bypass all of your conscious filters. The subconscious will continue to work the message out even if it takes a while.

Talking backwards seems to work the best for me. You conscious mind doesn't understand it so it "goes in one ear and comes out the other," but the subconscious will figure it out.

Another one is echos and embedding the message in music.

When I was really going at this (Like every sleeping opporutunity I was trying new ways and new techniques) I'd stumbled across this. Basically I ended up not being able to sleep because both my sub and my conscious mind were talking to each other while I was sleeping. (Which always had me wondering what was the 3rd mind?)

That day was so annoying because I really couldn't sleep and I was telling myself to shut up. The funniest part had to be when my sub gave my con the answer to the question, the con started going off on a rambling "O I get it now, for example...and another example..." I hated it at first but then I started to like it.

The way I do it is I usually ask a question and I then put myself close to the point where my conscious mind is almost asleep and that's when the answers come out. I've started getting a habit of whenever I ask a question I'd say the opposite right after that way I don't get no answer. I can't seem to get rid of that habit.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by "convince their non-awareness to help ..."

I have a personal theory I've had little time to explore. It goes soemthing like this. Why expect the conscious mind to manifest itself in your dream world in order to obtain lucidity. Doesn't it make sense to train your sub-concious mind to simply inform you you're dreaming. After all, the sub-concious mind is relatively "stronger" while dreaming (the conscious mind being very weak in this state, at least until lucidity is obtained).

So essentially, it's my hypothesis that you should be able to train your subconcious to inform you that you're dreaming.

I have experimented a little with this technique and had some success. The methods used revolved around auto-suggestion under deep meditation, or under the influence of Salvia.

I think there's a lot of potential value to this idea. I need to find time to further explore.

That's a good idea, Dr.T. My last lucid dream, while I was doing a reality check I got the dream character to admit to me that I was dreaming, maybe you could work with your subconscious mind through the dream characters, since the dream itself is something like a channel between the subconscious mind that generates it and the conscious mind that sees it?

I haven't been trying it for very long, but what I've found effective for at least influencing dreams is keeping my intention in mind as I fall asleep, thinking about it and reinforcing it to keep my mind busy. So far it's worked amazingly well, if I focus on a theme or a property I want the dream to have, like being more vivid, easy to remember, or about a certain theme, it usually works, and it helps me remember what I'm doing when I'm lucid in the dream. I'd bet this would work on the subconscious in general, that would be something to try