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      Method that unlocks Vivid LD with oobe

      Help with a program :

      1. From 4 am to 5 : 17 am keep listening to a preset called Astral Producer via BrainWave generator
      2. At 5 : 17 am Take a shower 5-10 minutes
      3. Once you finish with your shower go back to your bed and lie down
      4. Tell your self that "I will remember everything I'm about to experience"
      repeat that sentence 5-10 times
      5. Enjoy your Lucid Dream

      Attaining Astral Projection while in Lucid Dream state:
      1. Once you are in a LD , open up your hands
      2. Grab one of your fingers
      3. And try to separate it from your body
      4. This will allow you to astral project instantly
      5. Always use commands like Clarity Now etc...


      hope this helps

      When i use this technique i usually astral project... the experiences are fantastic and worth to try

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      O_O....................

      Interesting. Why must you take a shower? Iti si quite a odd setup you have here to lay in bed for about 1 1/2 hours take a shower repeat a montra and then obtain a lucid dream? Very interesting.

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      OMG cant believe u came up with this idea. Totally be willing to try it..great idea
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      By taking a shower you are awaking your concious to the full potential. I prefer a bit colder water so you awake to the max..

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      Oh I see so the shower assists in making you more aware and awake i get it know thanks for clearing tha tup.

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      I'll try it once some results are posted
      Where can I find this astral projection thing on BWGen
      I have it somewhere but am not sure how to use it

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      imran, I think you need to purchase the full version of BWGen to use custom presets, like the one born_2_kill is speaking of. I know that BWGen doesn't come specifically with an astral projection preset.
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      How much does it cost?
      "...You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world..." - Terence McKenna

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      Astral Projection isn't real, and I've seperated my finger multiple times in an LD, so... No, just no. You might convince yourself that you are APing, but you aren't. The first method is interesting, but it is a MILD/Auto-Suggestion, and the shower step isn't needed.

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      If needed i could convert the Present into a .wav format and host it on my website and for those who wish to download bwgen you can get it from
      bwgendotcom and yes you have to purshase it in order to import presets
      BeautifulDreamer :...

      Astral Projection isn't real, and I've seperated my finger multiple times in an LD, so... No, just no. You might convince yourself that you are APing, but you aren't. The first method is interesting, but it is a MILD
      /Auto-Suggestion, and the shower step isn't needed.

      The Reason why it does not work for you its because your brain doesnt know what purpose and action it will take once you do it..
      In your dream just Say out Loud I will astral project or Im gonna leave my body , and push your finger thats it!
      hope it helps
      Last edited by iLight; 07-12-2007 at 11:56 PM.

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      Heh, his website is "fundamentalistatheist"... so I don't think anything is gonna help.
      Stay lucid, stay WILD!

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      ehh why would u astral project , when u know ur alraedy in a dream and LD?

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      Quote Originally Posted by tekkendreams View Post
      ehh why would u astral project , when u know ur alraedy in a dream and LD?
      Astral Projection is the path way to death..people who die go there directly
      and there are several planes that can be accesses trough Astral Projection

      On the other hand LD's are ur daily experiences , without the physical limits

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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      2. Grab one of your fingers
      3. And try to separate it from your body
      How do you do that, you just pull it?
      I get the feeling that for me it will either get torn off, or get stretched like rubber...
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      Before i pull out my finger i scream out with a Strong Will
      "I will Astral project now!" and than i pull my finger... the next thing you know is that you are floating near your body or you are already in a plane far away from you body. Once you separate .. dont think about you body or else you will be braught back enjoy ur time In the Astral Plane


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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      Before i pull out my finger i scream out with a Strong Will
      "I will Astral project now!" and than i pull my finger... the next thing you know is that you are floating near your body or you are already in a plane far away from you body. Once you separate .. dont think about you body or else you will be braught back enjoy ur time In the Astral Plane
      OK, I'll give it a shot, but I can't use BW generators because my hearing is busted.
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      Use your Will.power..... and you will succeed without bwgen


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      What is the point of astral projection? Im ignorant in the realms beyond Lucid dreaming. What can you do? And why would i want to walk the pathway to death?

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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      Help with a program :
      Attaining Astral Projection while in Lucid Dream state:
      1. Once you are in a LD , open up your hands
      2. Grab one of your fingers
      3. And try to separate it from your body
      4. This will allow you to astral project instantly
      5. Always use commands like Clarity Now etc...
      When i use this technique i usually astral project... the experiences are fantastic and worth to try
      NIce technique born_2_kill. I'll try to remember it the next time I'm lucid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CrazyInSane View Post
      Heh, his website is "fundamentalistatheist"... so I don't think anything is gonna help.
      What does atheism have to do with belief in astral projection? They certainly aren't mutually exclusive.




      born_2_kill: can you link to the preset's page in the preset library for those of us who already have BWGEN?

      (But I would say this to those of us around here who don't have BWGEN: Try looking around )

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      For those who wish to download the preset heres the link
      here you go Click here

      hope it helps


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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      Help with a program :

      1. From 4 am to 5 : 17 am keep listening to a preset called Astral Producer via BrainWave generator
      2. At 5 : 17 am Take a shower 5-10 minutes
      3. Once you finish with your shower go back to your bed and lie down
      4. Tell your self that "I will remember everything I'm about to experience"
      repeat that sentence 5-10 times
      5. Enjoy your Lucid Dream

      Attaining Astral Projection while in Lucid Dream state:
      1. Once you are in a LD , open up your hands
      2. Grab one of your fingers
      3. And try to separate it from your body
      4. This will allow you to astral project instantly
      5. Always use commands like Clarity Now etc...


      hope this helps

      When i use this technique i usually astral project... the experiences are fantastic and worth to try
      Alright I tried your Astral Projection and this is what happened.

      I tried to seperate my finger from my body and this like virtual projection of myself was being removed from my body and I kept pulling and pulling but if I let go it would snap back and it was kind of slippery and hard to keep a hold on is this normal? I've never attempted an Astral Projection so I don't know much about these things.

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      Hm. I'll have a look for that/


      ehe.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Alright I tried your Astral Projection and this is what happened.

      I tried to seperate my finger from my body and this like virtual projection of myself was being removed from my body and I kept pulling and pulling but if I let go it would snap back and it was kind of slippery and hard to keep a hold on is this normal? I've never attempted an Astral Projection so I don't know much about these things.
      It is certainly normal.. and you have almost succeeded in that but...
      Something has hold you back , Probably your Doubts or feelings.
      Remmember when you pull the finger be 100% sure of success. If you have doubts than you mind will use it against you.
      once you pull the finger Scream out "Astral project!" or "Im leaving my body!"
      this will force your brain "Subconscious" to let you go out.

      Once your in the Astral realm dont be scared to meet unknown entities.
      And clear your mind totally because it is your though's that control the surroundings.


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      just like a Cold shower: Leaving a window open or turning up the airconditioner a bit to allow some cold air into your bedroom also does miracles to awaken the Mind.
      Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
      among other teachers taught me

      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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