Thread: LD goggles

Thanks for the update. Ev posted on that a few weeks ago:

http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3237

$10 huh? That is a LOT less than a NOVA. I still cannot sleep with anything on my face though

Guess I'll just have to keep doing it the old fashioned way!

how many dreams a month do you get doing "ye olde fassion way"?

you could use that mounted flashlight idea, its actually not that bad of an idea, if you's gots a DC alarm

Originally posted by lord soth
how many dreams a month do you get doing \"ye olde fassion way\"?

you could use that mounted flashlight idea, its actually not that bad of an idea, if you's gots a DC alarm

Old fasion way, as many as 16 a month.

Doesn't have to be a DC alarm clock, just use a relay to turn on the flashlight. It will get power from it's own batteries.

umm, I am thinking of a motor, that flips a switch, somat like that for the relay, how could that be run by ac (unless its an ac motor, which is a little harder to find...)

the switch it would flip would be the flashlight switch

i would think it would just be better to use dc,

I havent found a watch I can take apart yet, and I am not taking apart MY watch, being very expensive, it has the ability to turn on any tv or remote using appliance ! teachers dont really like it when the tvs turn on in their classrooms....

I thought I might refrence this...
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=413

And about cables: I sleep with cables attached to me all the time. I'm my own guinea pig.

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Three mercury switches, to detect when the goggles are moved, and this does not require a microcontroller. FOR DETECTING REM SLEEP.
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You would be able to use a large cap and some resistor work to turn it into ac. There's a better way to make lights blink anyways. You can replace the switch with some fancy 555 circut board. FOR BLINKING LIGHTS.

interesting,

and by the way, did this ever get finished?

If you kept going the way you were going you would have ended up with colored lines in mspaint, no way to cut and paste, no way to blur and ect.
so it would look ugly.

what you could to is use your fist multimeter to be used as the left click, and your right fist would be right click, use the eyes for the main movement and then directly link the whole thing into the mouse port. imagine some good program in LD like paintshop pro 7 (holiday edition) and just use your eyes and fists instead of your usual mouse

(the only problem is what will happen when you need to use the keyboard, like, to save it, but then, i guess you could pre-save it before you go to sleep and then, just click the save button in your dreams)

well, dougdrums, I dont have anything like mercury switches in my parts drawer, err, room-floor so I am going to stick to the alarm clock and the flashlight thing

but- and i didnt think of this before...

I actually CAN use a microcontroller, the lego rcx 2.0 is just a microcontroller with special software for n00bs to begin programming on, it would be easy to program it, and I allready have a light sensor, (the thing is, it uses a visible light to sense if something is moving, so I am going to have to make my own, homemade light sensor, (not that hard) I will need one of those sets of IR led and IR detector LED (they call them, something-pairs, cant remember) there are lots of sites that show you how to make sensors like that) http://www.plazaearth.com/usr/gasperi/lego.htm

and, yea, I will get back to you after tonight maybe?

EDIT: OOOOOO you can directly link to the computer this way (wirelessly)and plot data points... and you can use it to wake you up after rem (poking you pointlessly and repeatedly with a lego rod, right in the forehead) the only problem is that the rcx had an automatic shut off time, I do believe i can program it from the base up.... and override that part.... but I dont know what language its programmed in, might be a problem if it isnt in some sort of java, basic, or c-like language.

maybe I will e-mail the lego company to see if they will give me code ect....

EDIT2: http://www.plazaearth.com/usr/gasperi/gsr.htm skin response sensor, maybe one of you can find a good use for it

If you want some mercury switches, you can buy them from http://digikey.com

No, the project never got finished due to me being broke. The idea wasn't neccisarily to paint in dreams, just to bring something back out of dreams. You would also be surprised what some people could do in paint.

The problem with linking to the mouse is that you would have to get the dimensions of the program controls just right in the dream. You would be running blind. But making a dream keyboard would almost be better than making pictures...

I prefer to use Z80 processors because they are much, much more flexable. Zilog processors have ran everything from Galaga to graphing calculators. Their instruction syntax, functions, and statements are not much different then that of x86 processors. They are able to be programed in C by setting a command line option when 'compiling' with gcc, then with nasm. Right now I'm working on building a very basic computer with dual z80's. You can probably get them at http://digikey.com or on ebay. They rock.

A light sensor is much easier than that to build. A single LED would be able to do that with a small amplifier and a analog to digital converter. LED's will create a small current when hit with light.

Good old Z80's! Man, those were the days! I imagine you can buy them for about a buck now!

umm I dont make computers, I program them.... Thats different you know... so I dont know what you are talking about,

I just found out that when you open a light sensor they inevitably break, and they cost like, 20 $$ each (although they are a quality product from the lego company, i dont have that much money)

I really hate finding parts, I can never ever find all of them and they end up sitting in a plastic bag somewhere, (like that time i made an analog to digital volume controll for my radio... never could find that IC) and allthough digikey has almost everything, I cant afford shipping ect and I dont fancy having mercury all over my eyes... if, by chance, one of them breaks

I have finished the lego idea, except for the specialized sensor and the programming (havent found one of those third party programmers yet) I also havent found a watch to use for my other idea.

Do you know what arcitecture the rcx is?

(Yes, Z80's are t3h 1337 0wnz0rz!!!1 I also found this little gem of an auction... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...ssPageName=WDVW )

HA! Just remembered!!! I've got an old Sinclair ZX81 sitting the the attic. It is little more than the collection of IC's in your link!

Wonder if you could find them cheap on e-bay?

Awesome seeker!

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dont know why you guys are all excited about that.......

havent gotten around to making the goggles yet.....

Just for your info, I've copied and built these dream goggles :-

http://brindefalk.solarbotics.net/kvasar/kvasar.html

The project was fairly easy but unfortunately I can't get to sleep with the goggles on. I had to modify the code slightly to give more sensetivity on the eye movement detector.
My next move is to move to a heart rate detector to detect REM as heart rate climbs sporadically to 160BPM in REM sleep, and have a piezo electric transducer on the back of my hand to administer a slight electric shock which I will hopefully feel in a dream to trigger lucidity. The advantage of this is that there is nothing on my face which stops me going to sleep.

MY POST, IT LIVES!

good for you, man, i still havent gotten around to making mine

Originally posted by dectomax
Just for your info, I've copied and built these dream goggles :-

http://brindefalk.solarbotics.net/kvasar/kvasar.html

The project was fairly easy but unfortunately I can't get to sleep with the goggles on. I had to modify the code slightly to give more sensetivity on the eye movement detector.
My next move is to move to a heart rate detector to detect REM as heart rate climbs sporadically to 160BPM in REM sleep, and have a piezo electric transducer on the back of my hand to administer a slight electric shock which I will hopefully feel in a dream to trigger lucidity. The advantage of this is that there is nothing on my face which stops me going to sleep.

Lemme know how this is working out for ya. I got an idea. Why don't you hook up the peizo transudcer to a simple digital watch, and have it go off like every half hour or every hour. When it goes off and you can feel the slight shock ask yourself if you are dreaming. . .then you can be like. . .nope I'm not dreaming. . .but when I am dreaming. . .I will have full control. . .etc. . . Then when you sleep with the kvasar mask on. . .you are already pre-programmed to feel this shock. . .WHAM!!! I'm a genius by design

Hi Guys,

I have a slightly un-related question. I hope you don't mind, but you seem like the perfect people to ask around here:

I've been experimenting with a strobe light hooked to a digital outlet timer that turns on and off for 1 minute intervals about 7 times a night while I sleep.

So far, it's made me go lucid in my dreams at least once almost every night for the past 10 days (and I'm a total newbie at LD'ing). The problem is, as soon as I go lucid, I also wake up because the Strobe keeps flashing and making a clicking noise for the full minute interval before it turns off again.

I've come to the conclusion that I (and probably a lot of other folks), could easily have lucid dreams most nights this way, if I could just find a way to program the Strobe Light to turn on and off within a few seconds (I believe 3 seconds would be optimal for me), rather than after a full minute. From my experience, once it's been flashing for more than 10 seconds, my dreamscape is totally wiped out and I'm already waking up.

I've been searching for a commercial outlet timer that can be programmed in seconds, but haven't found anything so far.

Can any of you technical geniuses help me solve this problem? Please keep in mind, I'm a technical moron, so please phrase any answers in a way that a groggy 6 year-old would understand.



Thanks!