I think the key to some techniques is that when you do something like MILD, WILD, and WBTB, you HAVE to wake up FROM a dream.

I don't know if you HAVE to wake up from one...but it seems like it to me...I go to bed at 12:00am and every night I naturally wake up at 4:30am, I used to think that this arousal was my key to trying to lucid dream, but I've realized it's not. When I wake up at 4:30am I don't recall any dream, and I'm not tired, I'm actually wide awake, then I go pee, and return to bed.

So lately I've been trying to figure out a time to wake up from that I'm likey dreaming, but it's not working.... There was one time when I actually came close to a DEILD, but that was when I didn't know about it...or lucid dreaming..I had woke up from this awesome dream.....I remember not moving and opening my eyes briefly and thinking, "Come on...go back in...go back in.." Then I went back in, not lucid though.

This memory made me realize that I can probably master DEILD...but like I said earlier I haven't been able to wake up directly from a dream...I know when I wake from a dream because I recall completely upon awakening...like in fast forward, and I'm also extremely tired. I've tried setting the clock for 6:30am or 7 but nothing is working...I need help.

Well thanks for taking the time to read this, It's just something I had to get off my chest..