I H8 Reality's VILD Technique

well the problem for me is I am never really in that could-fall-asleep-in-ten-seconds state unless i know i have to get up, like before school. When my alarm goes off to get up, i literally can just close my eyes thinking "ill just lay here for a minute" and then thats the last thing i remember after i wake up twenty minutes later. However i find it very hard to "replicate" this feeling. If i wake up in the middle of the night, there isn't an urgency for sleep, i know i still have like 2-4 hours or so. Any suggestions?

The only problem I have with this method is that it forces me to choose between recording my dreams and attempting to have a lucid dream.

What I mean is, this method only works for me when I fall back asleep very quickly after waking. I keep a tape recorder beside my bed so I can describe my dreams during the night, but I've found if I do that, it wakes me up too much to apply this method. So I can either record my normal dreams or roll the dice and try for a lucid. It's a tough call when I've just had a really awesome dream.

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Originally Posted by Anaxamander

The only problem I have with this method is that it forces me to choose between recording my dreams and attempting to have a lucid dream.

What I mean is, this method only works for me when I fall back asleep very quickly after waking. I keep a tape recorder beside my bed so I can describe my dreams during the night, but I've found if I do that, it wakes me up too much to apply this method. So I can either record my normal dreams or roll the dice and try for a lucid. It's a tough call when I've just had a really awesome dream.

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this is probably the only time you shouldnt record your dream in any way or form. Your focus should be on doing the technique

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Originally Posted by Anaxamander

The only problem I have with this method is that it forces me to choose between recording my dreams and attempting to have a lucid dream.

What I mean is, this method only works for me when I fall back asleep very quickly after waking. I keep a tape recorder beside my bed so I can describe my dreams during the night, but I've found if I do that, it wakes me up too much to apply this method. So I can either record my normal dreams or roll the dice and try for a lucid. It's a tough call when I've just had a really awesome dream.

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this sort of method works for me all the time, I seriously recommend you just try it, and juut write down your dream later.

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Originally Posted by jamous

this sort of method works for me all the time, I seriously recommend you just try it, and juut write down your dream later.

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Oh, I know it works. I've already had several lucid dreams in the past few days, so it's definitely the best method I've ever tried. All I'm saying is it's a trade-off for me, not being able to record my normal dreams.

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Originally Posted by Anaxamander

Oh, I know it works. I've already had several lucid dreams in the past few days, so it's definitely the best method I've ever tried. All I'm saying is it's a trade-off for me, not being able to record my normal dreams.

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oh, yeah, got it. I'd say you might try setting aside some days to record, some to ld. Maybe even have month-long states of either strictly recording dreams or strictly lding.

mine problem is that when i wake up after 7 hours of sleep, i become so awake and not feeling tire.

so should i sleep longer or wake up before 7 hours?



[quote=westonci;581710]When you awaken during your brief awakening you should be really tired and not think too much (as if you don't care if this technique will work or not). The key is to be tired and mentally calm.

[QUOTE=nechong;581952]mine problem is that when i wake up after 7 hours of sleep, i become so awake and not feeling tire.

so should i sleep longer or wake up before 7 hours?

I would say sleep longer. Absolutely.
My lds that happen with this method are virtually always after at least 8 hours sleep. Because you need that going-in-and-out-of sleep which you won't get until after that first big block of sleep. You know what I mean?

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Originally Posted by jamous

oh, yeah, got it. I'd say you might try setting aside some days to record, some to ld. Maybe even have month-long states of either strictly recording dreams or strictly lding.

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Yeah, this morning I was in a real bind. I woke up after having a truly memorable, epic normal dream--the most vivid I've had in months, and I couldn't decide whether to record it or use the lucid technique. I wound up recording it, because it was too good to pass up.:)

Im pumped to try this method out tonight.

Allo by the way, I'm new here. Looking forward to learning more and helping others.

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Originally Posted by Marrs

Im pumped to try this method out tonight.

Allo by the way, I'm new here. Looking forward to learning more and helping others.

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dv and more importantly lding is very awesome! If you haven't had em, lucid dreams are a total trip.

I often find myself in front of walls or bushes that I want to get over when I realize I'm lucid dreaming, but I've never tried visualizing a barrier in order to induce it... that's going in the cooker. Thanks for the idea!

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ha.. I do something very similar.. I put velcro on a glove and did the same to my cell phone.. you get the picture..

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Originally Posted by nechong

mine problem is that when i wake up after 7 hours of sleep, i become so awake and not feeling tire.

so should i sleep longer or wake up before 7 hours?

I would say sleep longer. Absolutely.
My lds that happen with this method are virtually always after at least 8 hours sleep. Because you need that going-in-and-out-of sleep which you won't get until after that first big block of sleep. You know what I mean?

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How many hours do you guys have available to sleep?
Are you talking on the week-end?

Really interesting! :D

aha :D
A technique that WORKED! yes i became lucid but unfortunatley things didn't go quite to plan.
I imagined myself walking out of my back garden, down the path and all the way to the main road enterance becoming lucid,it was night and the road was completely deserted, i decided to explore my dream enviroment to see where things led.
I speed walked down the road trying to gain composure as i did so, i was very exited at this point and wondering what i would find .
I remember willing my self to go faster and managed to get little speed boosts of about 2seconds until i started approaching the traffic lights things began to fade to black and i heard a familiar clown laugh.
I turned around and came face to face with pennywise the clown, "BEEP BEEP" he shouted laughing manically throughout.
still surrounded by blackness my first though was to get to somewhere familiar and ended up on a sandy beach path although the sky was black and pennywise was still after me.
I "woke up" in my grandmas house and went downstairs still a bit shoock up, as i entered the kitchen my gran was facing away from me.
"can i have something to eat?" i asked "of course you can she said" and gave me a really strange dead pan look, as she did a heard that familiar laugh again coming from upstairs, i raced to the front dorr and struggled to get it open untili finaly woke up, for real this time.
none the less this technique worked though :)
wish me better luck next time.
oh btw if your wondering who pennywise is....
http://static.flickr.com/63/193488625_676dd39404.jpg

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Originally Posted by jamous

How many hours do you guys have available to sleep?
Are you talking on the week-end?

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either that or go to sleep very early

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Originally Posted by Gez

aha :D
A technique that WORKED! yes i became lucid but unfortunatley things didn't go quite to plan.
I imagined myself walking out of my back garden, down the path and all the way to the main road enterance becoming lucid,it was night and the road was completely deserted, i decided to explore my dream enviroment to see where things led.
I speed walked down the road trying to gain composure as i did so, i was very exited at this point and wondering what i would find .
I remember willing my self to go faster and managed to get little speed boosts of about 2seconds until i started approaching the traffic lights things began to fade to black and i heard a familiar clown laugh.
I turned around and came face to face with pennywise the clown, "BEEP BEEP" he shouted laughing manically throughout.
still surrounded by blackness my first though was to get to somewhere familiar and ended up on a sandy beach path although the sky was black and pennywise was still after me.
I "woke up" in my grandmas house and went downstairs still a bit shoock up, as i entered the kitchen my gran was facing away from me.
"can i have something to eat?" i asked "of course you can she said" and gave me a really strange dead pan look, as she did a heard that familiar laugh again coming from upstairs, i raced to the front dorr and struggled to get it open untili finaly woke up, for real this time.
none the less this technique worked though :)
wish me better luck next time.
oh btw if your wondering who pennywise is....
http://static.flickr.com/63/193488625_676dd39404.jpg

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haha, IT!

sounds familiar, how you found yourself walking down a path at your house. I often, when using a similar version of this technique, find myself walking down my neighborhood road. I'm at that certain stage of beginning sleep, and I know it, so I just start walking as if I weren't in bed, with full effort, and I wind up walkin down the road like that. Is that what it was like for you at all?

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Originally Posted by westonci

When you awaken during your brief awakening you should be really tired and not think too much (as if you don't care if this technique will work or not). The key is to be tired and mentally calm.

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After waking up during brief awakenings for a while you get a feel for which brief awakenings are good. and some as you say you feel really awake and seems as if you cant go to sleep quick. Usually the later your brief awakening the faster they are and the more tired you are

like last night i had a couple of brief awakenings, some of them didnt feel like it would work out well if I used the technique.

The one that did work, I imagined being in the Superspeedway and getting ready to drive an F1. As I visualized looking at the fans they are started to cheer themselves and I knew the dream took over. As soon as the dream started I jumped in the car and floored it!!

Its pretty intense going 230mph!

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Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

I imagined being in the Superspeedway and getting ready to drive an F1. As I visualized looking at the fans they are started to cheer themselves and I knew the dream took over. As soon as the dream started I jumped in the car and floored it!!

Its pretty intense going 230mph!

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Nibbles will definitely try this particular visualization...
Sounds ausome!

....oh and btw, Jamous, its a Ld dude, tell that clown to fuck off (lol)

that wasnt jamous's post, it was mine :D
i probably will next time, but the way everything faded black and he was just THERE really threw me of course, next time he's getting a foot to the face :P

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Originally Posted by Gez

that wasnt jamous's post, it was mine :D
i probably will next time, but the way everything faded black and he was just THERE really threw me of course, next time he's getting a foot to the face :P

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oh....sorry....
..about the foot to the face, nah, give him a 12 gauge:D....or a rocket:P... or better yet, send that mother to the moon so he doesnt come and F with my Ld's tonight :boogie:(this method will previal!) !!!!:bowdown:

Man, I still don't get this. I feel so weird because so many people are trying this for the first time and getting it. I can WILD fine; I can DILD too; but I can't do this.


Every time I start visualizing, I feel pressure on my chest and I feel my heartbeat in my whole body, and as soon as this happens, it becomes really hard to visualize. It's like all of the sudden my mind goes blank, and any attempt to get a mental image is a real struggle.

What gives?

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Originally Posted by TheBigBadCow

Man, I still don't get this. I feel so weird because so many people are trying this for the first time and getting it. I can WILD fine; I can DILD too; but I can't do this.


Every time I start visualizing, I feel pressure on my chest and I feel my heartbeat in my whole body, and as soon as this happens, it becomes really hard to visualize. It's like all of the sudden my mind goes blank, and any attempt to get a mental image is a real struggle.

What gives?

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I just woke up from and LD using this technique. The key is and I cannot stress this enough is that you must be really tired when you wake up during your brief awakening Sometime you wake up during it and you feel really awake, good luck with that type of brief awakening, it just wont work.

You'll usually have these really tired brief awakenings later in the night. Roughly 6+ hours after you first gone to sleep.

The Second part is the visualization, and yes I know what you mean about how during a brief awakening it feels impossible to visualize. The reason is your doing it with the wrong mind set

Its kind of hard for me to explain, but Your visualization should require no effort at all like your imagery you see when you first go to bed at night.Don't struggle and put all your mental powers and concentration in visualization, it will only keep you awake.

Its kind of hard to explain but you got to effortlessly visualize as if theres no pressure on you. Its ironic the harder you try and visualize, the more likely it wont work.

This is why I recommend visualizing somewhere your really familiar with

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT: You should visualize with your mind and not your eye! The reason visualizing seems so hard is your still trying to visualize with your eye (not in the literal sense). What I mean is when you visualize walking around don't do it from your eyes perspective, do it from your minds perspective.