Thread: I H8 Reality's VILD Technique

I'm going to try this tonite. The bad thing is I don't wake up tired anymore. I always used to, but recently I've been messing with my sleep patterns like taking afternoon naps. Now I don't wake up tired or feeling groggy which is the key to the method.

I shall try this tonight. Actually, early tomorrow morning most likely. I actually stumbled upon a very similar technique myself, except I didn't think to incorporate running. The technique that gave me some success was me in a room of my house, just feeling things. I figured that if engaging the tactile sense stabilizes a LD, it should also help with WILD, and it does. I have about a 10-15% success rate with my method, so maybe this one will bump that up to 30% or so.

Well, this is a double post but I think I should give an update.

This morning I attempted this technique and found some interesting results.

First of all, movement is definitely helpful. Walking around (in your imagination) tends to accelerate the process immensely. I think it has something to do with the fact that the human brain is better at concentrating on a moving object than a stationary one. Movement also engages the tactile sense which is, of course, crucial.

Now, there is one hiccup that I should tell you about. First, let me say that there appear to be two different ways that the mind visualizes a scene. There's the conscious way, wherein the entire scene is buffered into working memory and all updates are done there, and there's the way dreams do it, wherein the scene is streamed from long term memory into working memory continuously. The only way this technique can work is if you can convince your brain to render a scene using the streaming method. This can only be done when you're experiencing HI, which is why this technique works well when you've just woken up. Luckily, it's easy to tell when you're consciously rendering a scene and when you're streaming a scene. When it's conscious, it takes great effort to rotate a complex object, and the scene itself is divided into several objects that must be individually updated consciously. When the mind is streaming, the scene updates itself seamlessly and effortlessly and the whole experience feels much smoother.

Now that I've explained that, let me tell you about the problem I encountered. If you can get your brain to start streaming, you must be careful not to overload the the Flash player, to extend the analogy. Think of a Flash or Quicktime player playing a video. If you look at the bottom you'll see how much of the video has been "buffered". You can fast forward the video to a point, but if you try to go past the end of the buffer, it crashes. This is similar to what I experienced this morning. You can walk around in your little imaginary house, but don't walk too quickly; you'll be asking for more information than can be streamed in, and the dream will collapse to a simple daydream, which is useless.

So, to sum up, this technique does work well as long as you don't walk around too quickly or get yourself into a complex situation. Now, once the dream begins in earnest, you're not nearly as restricted. You just gotta be careful in those first moments.

almost did it this morning but fell asleep.

this really sounds reliable and like it works. Im definitely goin to try this tomorrow morning!

i have to say that this is by far the best technique that i have tried

i have had less than 10 ld's in my life but last night i thought about this when i woke up in the middle of the night, and i tried it, and soon i was lucid in a very, very vivid dream

also the lucid i had last night lasted for about 30 seconds, compared to my other ones which mostly were about 10 seconds

I don't have a single lucid dream in my record banks. It will be worth trying that tonight. These days, I've had a lot of luck with Autosuggestion, let's hope I can get myself to wake up in the night in order to try that out!

I love you I H8 Reality this technique really worked for me .

When do you visualize the scene? Like do you have to go into SP or somethin? Thanks

Drat! I wasn't able to not wake up this morning. I just got up as if there was nothing for me to do. I felt like trying a WBTB, but scrapped the idea.

I'll try again tonight, but going to bed earlier, and drinking a whole bottle of water as I always do recently.

Was really close to getting this on my first time this morning. I actually felt a sort of "shift" in consciousness. I tried this a couple of times and almost got there, but for some reason everytime I tried it, my family would start talking really loudly in the other room and the dog would start barking which would distract me!

Anyway, I'm sure I can get it on my next try, thanks loads for the technique!

Originally Posted by Jules2007

Was really close to getting this on my first time this morning. I actually felt a sort of "shift" in consciousness. I tried this a couple of times and almost got there, but for some reason everytime I tried it, my family would start talking really loudly in the other room and the dog would start barking which would distract me!

Anyway, I'm sure I can get it on my next try, thanks loads for the technique!

same for me. i think i can get it tommorow though

ok, first off man, props on creating so much hype for this thing! Reading all these posts It seems the main problem is being extremely tired during brief awakenings. I know exactly what you are talking about, how you must be able to fall asleep in ten seconds. It seems many people, including myself are having problems being THAT tired unless we have to get up.

So are there any ideas you or anyone else has to replicate that feeling?

Would an alarm clock be a good way since it is interrupting your sleep and so your body would want to go right back to bed, or would that just make you too awake

we need ideas to make ourselves tired when we wake up!

my problem is that a lot of my lucids happen at my house or in my yard, and I don't have enough control to change scenery or teleport. Plus, I take a while to fall asleep after WBTB or anything like that, so I need to visualize something random so that I have to conciously try or else I lose focus

So far I've only had the chance to try this method once, and it didn't work. I'll have to try to remember to try it again... When I first tried it, I ended up imagining myself run around my house about 20 times before I thought "Ok, well this isn't working..."

look's like many people are getting lucid this way i guess i will try this for a week and tell you how it goes

Tried it last night but didnt have much success.

If we are not EXTREMELY tired is it worth while to keep repeating the visualization or are we best off just going back to bed?

I will try this, today (or tomorrow or whatever). Since I ahve almost never had a dream involving my yard. Nor even infront of my house. I hope I don't mess up by being over-excited , cause I don;t wanna wait another day

arghhh!!! i keep falling back asleep after i wake up to do the wild/wbtb!!!
second day in a row that this has happened.

oh well, i definitely wont fall back asleep tomorrow morning.

Originally Posted by WolfeDreamer531

arghhh!!! i keep falling back asleep after i wake up to do the wild/wbtb!!!
second day in a row that this has happened.

oh well, i definitely wont fall back asleep tomorrow morning.

The key is to not be too tired nor too awake during the brief awakening, its a fine balance.

But once you get it your practically guaranteed a Lucid Dream as long as you can concentrate on your visualization.

Tip: to make the visualization easy just imagine yourself getting out of bed and walking out of the house.

Yay to me for bringing back this Topic ^.^

Question.

Does it matter how you picture yourself doing this?

Like would It be better picturing yourself in first person view or third where you picture yourself running?

I had troubles picturing myself under first person through my eyes.

I tried this the other day, jumped over a fence, didn't work. What was odd was that I kept on the image in my head. Went to my neighbors house and I think I went lucid there. The visual was more clearer and I was speaking with my friend. The image started to fade a few seconds and I immediately said to spin myself but couldn't hold the visual anymore.

I think I DID go lucid that day so I'm going to try again and need need the clarification.

If you're having trouble being in first person then you're not even close to falling asleep. When you're falling asleep, first person view becomes the default and it gets slightly harder to stay in third person.

Originally Posted by AniRichie

Question.

Does it matter how you picture yourself doing this?

Like would It be better picturing yourself in first person view or third where you picture yourself running?

I had troubles picturing myself under first person through my eyes.

I tried this the other day, jumped over a fence, didn't work. What was odd was that I kept on the image in my head. Went to my neighbors house and I think I went lucid there. The visual was more clearer and I was speaking with my friend. The image started to fade a few seconds and I immediately said to spin myself but couldn't hold the visual anymore.

I think I DID go lucid that day so I'm going to try again and need need the clarification.

Try and visualize as though your looking with your mind and not with your eyes. I know it sounds weird, but i also had trouble visualizing through my eyes in the 1st person perspective so I started to visualize with my mind in 1st person perspective.