Thread: I H8 Reality's VILD Technique

Sounds pretty sensible, I'll give it a try tonight/in the morning and let you know how it works out

Originally Posted by pudgesfan7

Sounds pretty sensible, I'll give it a try tonight/in the morning and let you know how it works out

You should have at least 6 hours of sleep before you do it.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

You should have at least 6 hours of sleep before you do it.

I did... I tried it but didn't have much luck, but I'm new so I wont give up on this method

ive tried this method like 5 times so far with no luck
i do get up with a brief awakening, but im having trouble visualizing
i cant seem to really visualize anything.
I have been living at my house for a LOOOONG time, and i know it inside out
but when i close my eyes i cant seem to visualize anything!
i mean i can think about it and how it looks but i never get a picture in my head of what it looks like, i just keep trying to think of what it looks like with blank in my head
anyone have this problem?

I tried this one last night.

I got about 5 hours of solid core sleep in which I had 3 dreams (2 I can remember clearly, the other one I've been trying to recall all day). I had set my alarm to 5.30, but I woke up at 4.30, turned off my alarm, and tried "strolling" into the dream state. I tried this probably 20 times for the rest of the morning (until 7.30), but unfortunately every time I could feel myself falling into the dream, I woke up.

Any ideas on why this was happening?

I tried this this morning but for some reason I woke up too rested. Was in a good mood for some reason, though.

I will attempt this tonight. The technique seems fairly straightforward...essentially you rather easily trick your brain into thinking that what you are visualizing is what you are dreaming. Because dreams fade into being and get more vivid as they begin, your brain takes this as the start of a dream and you walk into it with the intention of being lucid, ending up lucid.

In other words, you are combining WILD and VILD for something that results in twice the success. If you need a name, I would suggest the VWILD (Visually Wake-Induced Lucid Dream.)

I'll see if I could try this again tomorrow morning.

Well, the same thing happened again this morning. I'll try waking up earlier.

Originally Posted by lucidwannabe

I tried this one last night.

I got about 5 hours of solid core sleep in which I had 3 dreams (2 I can remember clearly, the other one I've been trying to recall all day).
I had set my alarm to 5.30, but I woke up at 4.30, turned off my alarm, and tried "strolling" into the dream state.
I tried this probably 20 times for the rest of the morning (until 7.30), but unfortunately every time I could feel myself falling into the dream, I woke up.

Any ideas on why this was happening?

Try waking up earlier, like 3am.
After you have your first dream of the night and happen to wake up (as normally what happens), try to remember to look at the time.
I have found I have dreams from even 2am.
You may not be tired enough at 4.30am.
Alternatively your mind wakes you normally after each REM cycle and you are normally quite awake in between REM cycles.
Is why you may have woken at 4.30am, instead of 5.30am. Try 3am or 5am by alarm during REM cycle. You should feel quite drowsy during a REM cycle if woken.
Is why often people snap at you if you wake them sometimes.

Originally Posted by lucidboarder

k, i finally used this technique and it worked to some extent, but i mixed in with a deild

DONT MOVE AT ALL WHEN YOU WAKE UP

Your part of the brain that controls dreaming is still active as long as you dont move

i did this yesterday and did not move at all and after thirty seconds, i still felt like i was in bed, but decided to do an RC anyway and it turned out i was dreaming, so for those of you who think its not working, you might be dreaming already! DONT MOVE!

what kind of RC did you do?

I usually do this when I wake up in the morning, and I have multiple non-lucid dreams? How can I get them to be lucid?

Go in with the absoleutely firm intention to be lucid.

This technique works during awakenings, eh? Unfortunately, I'm not the type who wakes up and is still tired enough to instantly fall asleep. I imagine this could happen sometimes during MILD, where waking is an integral part of it. I'm not a MILDer, though. Since it's summer, I go to bed late (I'm trying to move up my bedtime though). I wake up after I've had enough sleep. Sometimes I wake up and fall asleep again, but I don't think it's instant. I will try this next time that happens, though. Maybe it's a shorter length of time that I perceived it to be. Although maybe not, because I usually get up to use the bathroom before trying to go back to sleep.

Some questions:
Does it only work if you don't move?
Would using an alarm to wake up, then having to move to shut it off, completely kill the effectiveness of this technique?

Originally Posted by Forrest

This technique works during awakenings, eh? Unfortunately, I'm not the type who wakes up and is still tired enough to instantly fall asleep. I imagine this could happen sometimes during MILD, where waking is an integral part of it. I'm not a MILDer, though. Since it's summer, I go to bed late (I'm trying to move up my bedtime though). I wake up after I've had enough sleep. Sometimes I wake up and fall asleep again, but I don't think it's instant. I will try this next time that happens, though. Maybe it's a shorter length of time that I perceived it to be. Although maybe not, because I usually get up to use the bathroom before trying to go back to sleep.

Some questions:
Does it only work if you don't move?
Would using an alarm to wake up, then having to move to shut it off, completely kill the effectiveness of this technique?

There are three things that can happen during a brief awakening.

1. Your Too tired (Difficult to concentrate and high probablity of falling back to sleep.

2. Too awake (To awake to fall back asleep, but be careful you might think your too awake but it turns out it will still work)

3. This is what you want, not to tired but not too awake. You have a pretty good odds with this one.

As for not moving its no big deal, as long as you dont get out of bed. I roll over and it still works out.

Ive tried it with an alarm clock, and i cant really say if it will work better or worse for you. Try it yourself and see what happens.

Sorry for bringing an old topic back up.

I read this method yesterday and tried it last night, and got a pretty funny result.
So I’m doing the lucidity thing, and imagining myself get out of bed, open the door and walk down the stairs. Suddenly after reaching the last flight of stairs, something changes when I enter the living room. It’s my living room, but not quite the same, since instead of a sofa facing the TV it’s a sofa facing a sofa. My parents are on the left sofa, and my uncle on the right. (In real life they were talking downstairs while I was falling asleep) My dad asks me what’s wrong, why am I up so late? I mumble that nothing’s wrong, and groggily walk back up the stairs and to my room, which by now has morphed into room that looks nothing like my own. From there, my normal dream starts.

Seems like my brain tricked myself into believing I really did get up and walk down the stairs. I'll try again and hopefully get better results.

my first lucid dream came from this...i was sleeping in my friends basement and he always sleeps extremely late so i decided to just close my eyes and imagine i was still in his basement. sure enough i tried to walk through the wall and it worked. im gonna give it a try tonight

I do this all the time !

I discovered this too some time ago, but it only works when i'm deeply daydreaming or in the early mornin when i'm half awake , half asleep.
U know when you just woke up , you're not totally awake. So i try to fall asleep again while imagin me flying, or walking on the street somewhere, and then i start seeing the street around me , it just suddenly appears before i even know it. I takes some time for me to understand what's actually happening, but when i realize that i'm lucid dreaming i can do whatever i want!

Unfortunally it doesn't last long, the longest lucid dream i've had in my life lasted around 45 minutes i think - but it felt like 10 minutes -_-.

Ok, this thread has too good of a technique to not be bumped once in a while.

I've been gone for two weeks on vacation, so now I'm back and have more stuff to say.

I've read some posts, and apparently this technique is really good.
I'll be sure to try it when next I awake in the morning, even if it seems like a normal amount of sleep. I'll definitely be sure to try it the next time I am interrupted in the midst of a dream, because when you're in REM, you're TIRED.

I forget what else I was going to say about it. Anyways, I have (hopefully) wisely elected to remain optimistic about my abysmal LD skillz.

hey I H8 Reality, i don something similar to this to get lucid but have only been doing it for a short while, in my dreams i think to myself how real they seem but when i wake up they get kinda fuzzy, i was just wondering how vivid they get over time after some practice

oh baby! does this ever work!!

i was in a dry spell, and i tried this and got 2 MILDs (i guess they're MILDs) out of it!

i picture myself playing in my backyard and stuff, until i felt myself getting really sleep, about 10-15 seconds in, then i imagined running from my backyard to the front yard, jumping over a fence that is about 6 feet high. When I actually jumped through the fence, it is although there was a vertical invisible barrier going strait up from the top of the fence. When I jumped through it, I visualized and created a ripple effect around my body in this barrier, the kind that you would find when u you drop something into still water. Right after this happened, I was instantly lucid. It was amazing. It was an instant relax. My whole body just felt like it was the most relaxed it could get. I just felt my body go to sleep. It wasn’t in SP or anything, but I could tell my body fell asleep, and that I had entered a lucid state.

EVEYBODY MUST TRY TECHNIQUE, IT IS TRULY AMAZING.

Thanks to I h8 reality for sharing this technique

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

I first want to say that this works for me 100% of the time and I dont know if it will work for anyone else.

It usually happens in the morning so you need like at least 6hrs of sleep.

You have to wake up during a brief awakening.

While im in bed i just imagine jumping over my neighbours fence and running in through the alley way to the front yard. Once i make it to the front yard im already lucid.

Ive tried other scenes to start my lucid dream but they dont work. I think that your backyard/frontyard are ingrained in your subonicous so its really easy to imagine them with minimum effort.

So my front yard ends up being my lucid loading dock, or centre of my lucid universe.

Have you ever tripped when trying to jump over the fence??? I wonder if that would throw you into a nightmare?

Originally Posted by realcrucial

Have you ever tripped when trying to jump over the fence??? I wonder if that would throw you into a nightmare?

It will if you think it will, so just don't! Problem solved.

I tried it last night, and I couldn't visualize. Nothing happened .

It has occurred to me that this method could be considered an extremely boiled down version of MILD. This method hinges on waking up, being still tired, and going quickly back to dreaming via an extremely familiar setting. For MILD, you tell yourself to wake up after dreams. This method may be enhanced by starting off like MILD, enhancing the probability of waking up after a dream. In MILD, you write down some keywords, then try to go back into the dream. However, in this method, no writing, no anything. While tired, go to the familiar situation, which serves as the launch point for a new and instant lucid dream, rather than going back into the old dream. This writing is longer than I originally anticipated. Oh well.

I tried it again last night. I set my alarm for 1:30, but I don't remember waking up and turning it off at all. And it's an alarm that you have to turn off, it will go for days unless you turn it off.