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      umm do you have to stay completely still also?

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      unfortunately yes

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      how do u get ur whole vision to black out? I can only get w/e spot Im looking at to go black. Please help.
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      lone, you must do it somehwre reasonably dark, but not pitch black.

      Keep your eyes completely still (kinda hard but that's it)... It's gonna look like everything gets darker and darker... and then it all goes black


      yes, at first only a few things will black out, but with practice (?) it will happen way easier
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      maybe it was because I wasnt that sleepy but my eye kept twitching... and it was hell keeping it still and it kept burning cause of the air.
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      Yeah are we supposed to avoiding blinking or just avoid the twitching? I imagine not blinking would hurt.

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      dsr, without practice, it really does. But when you are comfortable, still, and about to sleep, it doesn't really bother. I once had to practice staying for several minutes withotu blinking for this exposition at school (it was like those living statues, but I actually had to pretend I was dead xD), so I'm used to it. It took me only one day or practice to get really good at it heh.
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      You don't have to have you eyes completely open. You want to have it confrontably open so your eyes don't go all red. If you are actively looking out of your eyes, instead of day dreaming then your doing it fine.

      You should watch out of your eyes and then your in the dream.

      Yeah are we supposed to avoiding blinking or just avoid the twitching? I imagine not blinking would hurt.
      You can blink alright and you can twitch. If your eyes hurt then close them a little, however do not close your eyes completely.

      Wendylove could you explain your exp. if you dont mind... start from wen ur vision blacked out. Plz and thank you
      Well, I had my eyes semi open and it started to close and open. I then started to hear voices and then I blanked out and was in a vivid dream and then became lucid.

      P.S. I have also tried this without wbtb and it is really strange. It is like you body gets bent like someone pushing energy into you, then everything blacks out. You don't dream, however you hear voices like you where just in talking to someone. Then again, sometimes you do dream.
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      wait. were supposed to try this with wbtb? or without?
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      The eye twiching is obviously common and is going to happen, try and focus your mind on somethings else. But still be aware of what you eyes are focusing on, if you keep your eyes open for a while, even if they start to sting (wich they will), then they will start to water, after that.. It's fine and will not sting aneymore.. Just keep going evrybody. Youw ill get the hang of it soon

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      sounds interesting...I'd like to think this can help me WILD

      but at what point do your eyes close? is it a conscious movement...or simply happens without you knowing?

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      This sounds promising . I will have to try it, ill post my results.

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      I got that last night for the first time!
      I was staring at the ceiling and I saw the usual sparks, blobs and circles i get when I close my eyes, fade in over the real things I was seeing.

      My brain probably thought it was so dark, and since I was staring at a fixed point, that my eyes were closed.

      And I had the first dream recall in a long time this morning, awesome, very realistic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kromoh View Post
      dsr, without practice, it really does. But when you are comfortable, still, and about to sleep, it doesn't really bother. I once had to practice staying for several minutes withotu blinking for this exposition at school (it was like those living statues, but I actually had to pretend I was dead xD), so I'm used to it. It took me only one day or practice to get really good at it heh.
      I think I would be afraid of damaging my eyes.

      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      You don't have to have you eyes completely open. You want to have it confrontably open so your eyes don't go all red. If you are actively looking out of your eyes, instead of day dreaming then your doing it fine.
      All right. If I only need my eyes partially open, and only for ten seconds or so, that sounds doable. I'll keep the active thing in mind.

      Quote Originally Posted by lonestarx View Post
      wait. were supposed to try this with wbtb? or without?
      WILDs work much better with WBTB because your REM periods are longer and more vivid as your night's sleep progresses. When you first fall asleep, you barely dream.

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      I am most definitely trying this tonight.
      I've known about vision blacking out forever. (It happens to me every night within a matter of seconds when I am first going to sleep), I've just never thought about using it to induce a lucid dream.
      This sounds most interesting, thank you for posting it up.

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      Sounds really good, might try tonight. I have experienced the blacking out before while doing the tricking your body to fall asleep but it faded back in after a few seconds.

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      It's kind of hard for me, I fell asleep without even knowing and so I didn't become lucid . Ill try tonight but focused on staying awake more and to stop my eyes from closing .

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      hey ive almost done that before! i was staring at nothing in my dark room and everything started blacking out. Then i got to the colors. I didnt even think to try and become lucid from it though it sounds like a very cool and unique technique
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      Ok, I've tried this once, and I can't stop blinking, to have my eyes even HALF open cause them to water and sting. But maby it'll be differant 2night.
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      and concentrate lol

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      Hmmm would be interesting if this worked for me, I don't think it would be possible for me to slip into a dream state so easily, it seems everyone has it better then me .



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      dream boat..... dude.......
      you are a HERO !!!!
      ill tell you what you have done to deserve that title:

      you modified the most trustfull technique ever made (WILD) and made it way better,
      -no more hours of waiting the HI
      -almost everyone that have tried it had been succesfull in the FIRST try (i have never seen that before)
      -easy
      -no relaxation of breathing techniques
      -DUDDDE

      yea !


      your technique kicks the ass of all the other ones !!!!


      i have just 1 question ...
      how is it going so far the technique with you?
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      YEA!

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      Sorry to ask an ignorant n00b question, but this technique is not harmful to your eyes or vision is it?
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      Dream Boat, you should give yoru technique a name? What shall it be??

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      Well I gave it a shot last night, and for a few minutes I could almost visualize a world forming before me, obscure lights and shapes and floating orbs and all that sort of thing, but alas I got too excited and woke up. I'm much more tired tonight because I stayed up most last night trying to go lucid so I might have a better chance tonight.
      Crazy, but that's how it goes!
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