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      n00b unseen wombat's Avatar
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      I think you definitely were seeing HI. I just recently discovered what it was myself though. I don't think you were in SP. You were just really relaxed and didn't feel like moving. SP (from what I've read, not from experience), is more like physically not being able to move even if you wanted to. Think of all the stories about people seeing demons standing above them and trying to move and not being able.

      So, my opinion is there was HI, but not SP.
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      You know there is a problem with the educational system when people are using it to practice wild

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      Quote Originally Posted by unseen wombat View Post
      I think you definitely were seeing HI. I just recently discovered what it was myself though. I don't think you were in SP. You were just really relaxed and didn't feel like moving. SP (from what I've read, not from experience), is more like physically not being able to move even if you wanted to. Think of all the stories about people seeing demons standing above them and trying to move and not being able.

      So, my opinion is there was HI, but not SP.
      How can i get HI without SP?
      Is it possible or do you need SP to get HI?

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      You know there is a problem with the educational system when people are using it to practice wild
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      So today I finished my exam, and couldnt leave the room until everybody turned theirs in because of some gay anti-cheating rampage, Anyways.. I pulled out my ipod and sat comfortably and closed my eyes.
      I finished my test and couldnt do anything else.
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      no you dont need SP to get HI
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      I dunno. Lately when I look for them, I see patterns of light and shadow swirling in front of my eyes, sometimes forming images like a mailbox, or a desk or a face, but if I want to move, I'm perfectly able to. I think that goes against the definition of SP.
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      SP is sleep paralisis. you shouldnt be able to move.
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      Ive never not been able to move. I could always force my self to move if i wanted to.

      Like i would get vibrations and lose feeling sensations in my limbs, but i can still move it if i want.

      Would that be SP
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      n00b unseen wombat's Avatar
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      That's my problem too man. That's why I think I've never felt SP yet.
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