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OK I can say for sure now. Staying awake for 5 minutes doesn't work. I have tried twice but I just fall asleep and lose focus. The problem for me is that I find little to do when I'm awake. Now I have decided to print this page to read druing WBTB and hopefully I'll have more success ;P
Cheers.
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I tried this but when my alarm went off I just switched it off and went straight back to sleep :\ Should I try moving my alarm further away from my bed, and put a piece of paper on it saying "WILD" so I wake up properly and don't do the same again?
edit - moved the alarm to the other side of my room, and taped a piece of paper saying "WILD" to it. also printed off the instructions to the technique and put them nearby.
Good luck :)
I tried this last night and came close... I think.
I set my alarm for 4 am and went to sleep around 11 pm. When my alarm went off I got up and used the restroom, then got a glass of water. I got on my computer and revised the tutorial, then after around 7 to 8 minutes I went back to bed.
I rested for a couple of minutes relaxing different points on my body and letting my heartbeat slow. After this my entire body was relaxed and I started focusing on my back sinking. I did this for a while (don't know the exact time) and went into SP. After this I continued to focus on my back sinking and after a little while it felt like my body was spinning really fast out of control. I focused hard on the feeling of spinning and tried to land myself somewhere, but it never happened and I never entered the dream. So I soon gave up.
Did I do all of this right? How long does it usually take to enter the dream once you reach spinning?
Sounds like you did it all right and hit the spinning perfectly - how long did it take you to reach this stage?
I think if you focus too hard you can lose it - I would recommend slowing the spinning if you can, try to open your eyes, don't worry you wont open your actual eyes. When you do try emagine what you want to be looking at. When you open your eyes this will offer you the stability to stop the spinning completely and be lucid :)
Thanks, I will try these suggestions out tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam
EDIT: It didn't take very long to reach the spinning point, I would estimate maybe 10-15 minutes from the start.
Failed last night due to it taking a long time to get to sleep when I first went to bed, I'm gonna goto bed earlier tonight.
Hi there,
as I'm quite new to lucid dreaming, I need some advice of experienced lucid dreamers concering the WILD technique.
First, my current level of learning experience:
I began to practice about five weeks ago (including Reality Checks all day long, Dream Journal, many WILD and some WBTB attempts). After three weeks, I had my first lucid dream - however, it lasted only about three minutes. I suddenly realized that I could see a non-reality scenery through my eyelids, and so I slowly started to "stand up out of my body". I was standing there in a dreamscape, completely aware that in reality I was lying on my bed (I could even feel the mattress on my right cheek, although I was standing upright - very weird feeling). Then I started
wondering what to do with my very first beautiful lucid dream - and woke up :-(
To achieve this, I didn't use any technique like WILD or Reality Checks - at least I cannot remember. Since then I'm trying to WILD, but I just don't get to the point of seeing a dreamscape again, and I'm wondering what I am doing wrong. In almost about the half of my WILD attempts, I manage to get to a point, where everything is kind of see-sawing and swinging, although I don't see much hypnagogic imagery (That's why Adam's technique seems to suit me better). I'm always trying to relax more (as I think I'm a little bit too excited), e.g. by concentrating on breathing and counting or "letting myself fall backwards"; it somehow works a little bit, but I just don't manage to get beyond this point. The feeling goes away again, and I'm almost normally awake with my eyes closed, but without having slept or dreamt at all. This happens 3 or 4 times during my WILDing time in the early morning hours (from 4 a.m. until I have to get up at 7 a.m.). I've been doing this for two weeks now.
I've reached a point from which I don't seem to make any progress. So here's my question: am I doing something wrong? Should I try another method - or just keep on going on persistently?
Thanks for your help in advance!
This looks like a fantastic technique and its a great tutorial. I've been attempting WILDs but I never see any images to focus on so have never had any luck - was starting to think I was strange. However, I often feel physical sensations when tired or falling asleep but had never even though of focusing on this when attempting a WILD instead of visual images so thank you Adam for doing the hard part for me! I will try it tonight and report on my experience - I never have any problems falling back to sleep so I'm optimistic (and mentality is half the game :) ).
Looks like I was wrong. I had a siesta yesterday afternoon so I went to sleep quite late that night so 4.5 hours after I fell asleep it was already light and since I don't have any light-blocking curtains I was actually quite awake. I also had a dentist appointment today so I started immediately thinking of that so I couldn't get to sleep while trying to WILD so I gave up and thought I'd try again tonight without having a siesta and waking up while its still dark. I could always shut the shutters. If I have any success I will report. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowy
Hey,
Great technique..
Last night I kept slipping into Lucidness and out again.
I knew I was going Lucid but then I came out right before I did then that happened about 9 times lasting about 2 seconds each.
Anyway couldn't remember anything else about last night so i'll try again tonight..
Haah thanks :D
Awesome good work :D
Hey Adam, nice technique! I have one question however:
Have you ever tried/had success doing this method without doing a WBTB?
Thanks :banana:
I usually WILD now without WBTB - I find it easier, but I don't use this technique to do it :)
What technique do you use then Adam to WILD without WBTB?
No specific technique really. I just deprive myself of sleep, then when I do go to bed, I usually slip into SP within a couple of minutes using tactile sensations and WILD from there - I could write something up I guess if you're interested, but it's nothing groundbreaking or special.
Hey Adam--thanks for the tutorial. I'm going to try this tonight. This is my very first post and was anxious to write something somewhere; so here it is! Quick question though: You're initial post was about a year and a half ago--are you still having good success with it? Also, about how long (number of tries, days, etc.) did it take for the technique to first work? The reason I ask is that I have lucid dreams about once every two months without really trying, but really want to get into a regular, consistent, "practice" of developing the ability to LD. I've been interested in LD for about 7 years with little consistency in trying techniques, but I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines and being an occasional participant (hence, joining this forum). Thanks!
Hey MorningView :)
To be honest I don't use this technique myself - I WILD when going to sleep, rather than with WBTB. But for me, this worked pretty much at the first attempt, but as I said for some people it will work, but for others they may not find so much success.
Let me know how you get on and if you have any other questions let me know :)
yo whassup! i love this technique!! and it makes me feel dumb cuz i always feel that feeling of sinking or like i'm gonna do a backflip but i always kinda brushed it off:| but this technique worked for me on my first attemt! thanks adam!! however i have a Q, so you say that you don't focus on HI but u do visualize ur back sinking? because you said that you don't use visualizations only motion but then u said u visualize ur back sinking. I'm not trying to say you contradicted urself but i don't quite understand that part bro.
thanks for the tutorial by the way! it's the shiz!
Hey! I'm glad it helped:D
What I mean is that I don't focus on imagery, like flashes, picturing things in my mind to get lucid, but working with the tactile sensations, if that makes sense?
Oooohh i gotcha!! yeahh i'll try that, cuz last night i tried the technique but i forgot i'm not supposed to focus on HI n so i was insomniac:/ but thanks for clearing that up dawg, helps a bunch! i'll try it tonite!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
It's not that you should try not to focus on HI, it's just that I don't because I never reach it - I only ever get the sinking/spinning feeling, so focus more on that :)
ite homes! thanx! i'll try that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
Your technique did help with the WBTB. I was sinking into the bed almost immediately and began to put together an image of a forrest with a purple sky in the background..but my brother had his tv on in the other room which kept pulling me out of it and made it difficult each time to go back to where I left off at.
My only other option was to completely abandon my progress and turn it off myself.
But today I'm gaurenteed silence, so hopefully I'll be pulled into lucidity for the first time. :)