Thread: Ultimate technique!!

Instead of having you friend stay up all night. You can both wake up after 6 hours of sleep. And then you go back to sleep and he will stay up. After 6 hours of sleep you enter into you 4th dream period which last 30-60 mins. I think that it would be more productive to try this method then, because it is a longer dream period and your friend won't fall asleep on you if you only ask him to stay awake for 60 minutes instead of 6 hours.

Oh if only I had friends who were interested in lucid dreaming!

How can someone else tell that you are in REM? Just by watching for eye movement?

Hmm my mom is almost as interested in dreaming as I am, and my sis is a natural LDer (damn her, it didn't start until I told her about my first LD!), maybe over the summer I can get one of them to try this...

It sounds like an almost fail-proof plan, but it sounds inconvienent...

HAHAHHAHAAHAHA i can imagine some guy sitting next to his /heer friend half awak during the night flicking the light and then falling asleep , that is the worst idea ever no need to have someone wathc u sleep

Originally Posted by ld411

Ok so theres this technique that i have thought of. Its kind of related to how the nova dreamer works. Its simple and can be pretty effective.

You need a friend to help with this and a flash light or any kind of other light that can keep going on and off.

How to:

You tell your friend to flash the light a couple of times while you are sleeping(make sure its during REM sleep so you can see the light in the dream) You would probably see the light in your dreams just like how the nova dreamer works. Only thing i don't like about this technique is that you need a friend that will stay up 5 hours after you sleep

But this technique does work probably most of the time. You all should give it a try and report back please. Also i have tried this technique once and had one short LD.

Good luck~ ld411

yeah, no offense, but this IS just a harder version of the nova dreamer. probably very hard to do. im sorry man.

you must have very good friends, I might just might be able to pull it off one night with my friend but your asking alot.

Poor man's lucid dreaming mask instructions:

1. Get yourself some LED's from radio shack, some resistors and capacitors, and 1 or 2 555 timers.
2. Look up online how to set up the 555s to start flashing at a rate of maybe 2 to 3 times a minute, about 20 minutes after being turned on. (The delay is the reason you may need 2 timers; one monostable, and one astable. I'm not an electrician though. There may be an easier way).
3. Place one LED on top of each eyelid at WBTB. Use a sleeping mask or a headband to keep them in place.
4. Connect the battery and go to sleep.
5. ?????
6. Profit!

Freakin' genious!

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

Poor man's lucid dreaming mask instructions:

1. Get yourself some LED's from radio shack, some resistors and capacitors, and 1 or 2 555 timers.
2. Look up online how to set up the 555s to start flashing at a rate of maybe 2 to 3 times a minute, about 20 minutes after being turned on. (The delay is the reason you may need 2 timers; one monostable, and one astable. I'm not an electrician though. There may be an easier way).
3. Place one LED on top of each eyelid at WBTB. Use a sleeping mask or a headband to keep them in place.
4. Connect the battery and go to sleep.
5. ?????
6. Profit!

Cool, I know its not very hard to put a thing like that together yourself, but it would be easier for us to know what you're talking about if you gave us the link where you got the info from? =p or make a movie and put it on youtube.. "how to make a luciddream device at home for dummies".. something like that ^^

There's lots of online tutorials on how to work the 555. It's been so long since I used one though, I'd have to look deeper into it. Maybe I will. It's about 90% more likely though that I'll just be lazy and not.

I used to be a member of an electronics forum, just long enough to make a device that turned on an LED everytime a shadow passed over a photoresistor, which I used as a boss detector so no one could sneak up behind me at my cubicle. I don't remember what the name of the site was now though. But the people were very helpful.

Edit: Here we go, you can keep track of the replies to this thread if you're interested: http://www.electro-tech-online.com/s...390#post298390

for non-electrician types. a timer like this could work well

http://www.amazon.com/Timex-L12-880-...sim_hi_title_3

Sounds like you got really loyal friends

they already had this thread a while ago

http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ht=flash+light

Originally Posted by Shift

Oh if only I had friends who were interested in lucid dreaming!

Try living over here in the UK, the land where everyone in stupid. Don't worry I know how you feel.

Nice, some often people think that lucid dreaming sounds weird.
This way i can show them how it really is. Give them some dream recall food and then flash their eyes when they are asleep and they will find out what i'm talking about.

There is absolutely no way I would be able to fall asleep with someone watching me. Thats real creepy.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

There is absolutely no way I would be able to fall asleep with someone watching me. Thats real creepy.

Depends what they're like, if you know them like your own personal Jesus or something then it woudn't be that bad would it?

Is there a particular reason that everyone focuses on visual stimulation to elicit awareness?

Indeed, sound could cause one to awaken, but how about smell or touch?

This may be far fetched; nevertheless, it could work. It may be possible to position timed air fresheners in such a way that the smell is rather poignant to the senses, and is thus transmuted into the dream world in a bizarre manner. Given that smell is not strongly associated with dreaming, then it may appear in a more salient light compared to visual stimuli.

Or perhaps some ingenious contraption could knock a glass of water onto your face, which could follow with you suddenly being teleported to a swimming scene in the dream world. Thus, by waiting for such a water scene, you could easily become lucid.

Somehow, call it Quark intuition, I don't think that these ideas shall ever be tested.

There's actually a tutorial somewhere on DV that is exactly like this. They call it FILD or Flashlight Induced Lucid Dream.

is a good idea though. makes it so you dont have to spend money on a novadreamer if you have someone who will actually do this for you

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

Poor man's lucid dreaming mask instructions:

1. Get yourself some LED's from radio shack, some resistors and capacitors, and 1 or 2 555 timers.
2. Look up online how to set up the 555s to start flashing at a rate of maybe 2 to 3 times a minute, about 20 minutes after being turned on. (The delay is the reason you may need 2 timers; one monostable, and one astable. I'm not an electrician though. There may be an easier way).
3. Place one LED on top of each eyelid at WBTB. Use a sleeping mask or a headband to keep them in place.
4. Connect the battery and go to sleep.
5. ?????
6. Profit!

is the nova dreamer out yet? im just wondering has anyone here actually used it? it makes sense why it would work but im curious if there are any people who have had first hand successes with it. if it is not even out yet has anyone used this man's hooddreamer?