Thread: My Technique keeps working

Originally Posted by Menthol

I've been having trouble lately "entering" my dreams, but I use your technique. Instead of thinking about "feeling" stuff I think about the feeling of SP and it works. I've had it work everytime I've tried it.

I've noticed that timing is very important, brief awakenings after 6 hours of sleep are EXTREMELY important for entering Lucid Dreams, regardless of what style you use to enter a dream.

Another success here using this technique; after a long, long dry spell. Thanks goes to I H8 Reality.

What would you advise on having subsequent LD's?

When you wake from the first one, do you start to visualize then? Or do you fall back to sleep normally and wait for the next brief awakening?

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Elliott

Another success here using this technique; after a long, long dry spell. Thanks goes to I H8 Reality.

What would you advise on having subsequent LD's?

When you wake from the first one, do you start to visualize then? Or do you fall back to sleep normally and wait for the next brief awakening?

Cheers.

Try this: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ighlight=Dield

Would I be able to wake up at 6 hours from my alarm clock and then immediately try the backyard and tactile visualtion technique?

I'm worried the next time I wake up between REM periods will be too short and I won't gain consciousness enough to actually remember.

Or can I set my alarm to go off at 6 hours and 30 minutes? Will that still have the same effect? Or do I have to wake up the second time naturally?

My alarm is semi-quiet and only wakes me up a little.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

its very likely thats the reason why you don't have much Lucid Dreams. Most people have Lucid Dreams in the early hours of the morning. Your missing out on REM if you only sleep for 6 hours

My day off tomorrow, would you think the below is ok?

Go to bed at 9pm
Set alarm for 4am, wake up turn alarm off then go back to sleep.
Hopfully wake up at 5am for a brief awakening.
Start visualizing my bedroom and touching everything untill i enter a LD

Cheers.

Originally Posted by Elliott

Another success here using this technique; after a long, long dry spell. Thanks goes to I H8 Reality.

What would you advise on having subsequent LD's?

When you wake from the first one, do you start to visualize then? Or do you fall back to sleep normally and wait for the next brief awakening?

Cheers.

Congratulations Elliot, yes you can do it over and over. As a matter of fact I once did it about 5-6 in a row, after each Lucid Dream I would wake up and do the visualization again and I'd be in a dream again.

Originally Posted by Ethanescence

Would I be able to wake up at 6 hours from my alarm clock and then immediately try the backyard and tactile visualtion technique?

I'm worried the next time I wake up between REM periods will be too short and I won't gain consciousness enough to actually remember.

Or can I set my alarm to go off at 6 hours and 30 minutes? Will that still have the same effect? Or do I have to wake up the second time naturally?

My alarm is semi-quiet and only wakes me up a little.

Thanks again.

You can try it, but I wouldn't make any guarantees. The technique I developed took me months to develop, and a lot of fine tuning.

My technique will work for virtually anyone who tries it. Just keep trying.

Originally Posted by Cammy

My day off tomorrow, would you think the below is ok?

Go to bed at 9pm
Set alarm for 4am, wake up turn alarm off then go back to sleep.
Hopfully wake up at 5am for a brief awakening.
Start visualizing my bedroom and touching everything untill i enter a LD

Cheers.

Timing is perfect. But I would recommends visualizing outdoors, like your backyard for example. Its much easier believe me.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

Timing is perfect. But I would recommends visualizing outdoors, like your backyard for example. Its much easier believe me.

Okay!

Going to try it tonight, ive had a dry spell of well over a year now

Timing is very important for Lucid Dreams, you cant just Lucid Dream anytime during the night. There are certain times during the sleep cycle that are VERY important for inducing Lucid Dreams. I cant stress enough the importance of brief awakenings after 6 hours of sleep.

Also the supine position is very important in inducing sleep. This is probably while people report having Sleep Paralysis mostly in the supine position.

Also the visualization is EXTREMELY important. Because the location, time of day, things you do, and tactile sensation in your visualization all contribute to inducing Lucid Dreams.

Other techniques work perfectly for some and not for other. This technique will work for you as long as you:

- have an alarm clock
- sleep the required time (6+ hours)
- notice when your in a brief awakening
- have normal visualization skills

Well i failed !

Woke up at 4, went back to sleep, woke up again but just couldn't get back to sleep

Yeah, that's what happens to me too. I don't think I'm gonna be able to fall asleep on my back. I always sleep on my side, and I think my body is expecting it.

H8, don't you think that all the fine tuning might have just been making it right for your sleep cycle? Maybe us people who are failing need to fine tune it even more. Great...

I tried this last night and instead of entering a dream, i entered SP. What do you think may have caused this?
Thanks

Originally Posted by detail

I tried this last night and instead of entering a dream, i entered SP. What do you think may have caused this?
Thanks

you where really close to entering a Lucid Dream, instead you entered SP. It happens every now and then

Hello, hopefully your technique will give me my first LD after knowing of LDing for about three years and after hundreds of attempts of all kinds of techniques.

I follow the steps, but I don't reawaken after I go back to bed. Example: fall asleep at 12:30. alarm wakes me up at 6:30. Fall asleep. My other alarm wakes me up at 8:50--time to get up.

Do you use a lot of autosuggestion while falling asleep after the first alarm to get yourself to wake up again?

How long after the first alarm until you wake up again?

Does your technique require more than 9 hours of sleep or so to be available?

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

This technique has worked consistently for the last couple of months and I'm finally going to reveal it.

1. You need to set your alarm clock so that you have at Least 6 hours of sleep.

2. When the alarm goes off just turn it off and go back to sleep.

3. The next time you have a brief awakening, lay in the supine position.

4. Relax, close your eyes, and start visualizing being in your backyard during daytime. Now start moving along the perimeter of your backyard and start touching things such as doors, garbage cans, walls,etc.

Tactile sensation IS VERY IMPORTANT when your visualizing. Without it, it will be very hard to enter a Lucid dream. I think the tactile sensation makes you forget about your real body and helps focus on your dream body.

5. Once you start walking around your backyard touching things as you go. You will know when you've entered the dream. Its like you get sucked into the dream.

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This may sound tedious, but it keeps working for me. Let me summarize again:

-minimum 6 hrs of sleep
-brief awakening
-Supine Position
-The Visualization (Tactile Sensations is Important!)


One things I've noticed consistently is that brief awakenings between 6 - 9 hours after falling asleep are very special. They're like a doorway to Lucidity. Before 6 hours it is very difficult to enter a dream , after 9 hours you'll be too awake during the brief awakening.

How long do I have to keep thinking about staying in the backyard for? Is it till I dream, or just for a few minutes while still awake. It will get very tedious otherwise.

Originally Posted by Joseph

How long do I have to keep thinking about staying in the backyard for? Is it till I dream, or just for a few minutes while still awake. It will get very tedious otherwise.

for me it takes less than a minute.

However if you feel really awake during the brief awakening it might not work, also if your really tired during the brief awakening than it might not work.

The key is to be a balance not to tired, but not too awake.

Originally Posted by eggbert

Hello, hopefully your technique will give me my first LD after knowing of LDing for about three years and after hundreds of attempts of all kinds of techniques.

I follow the steps, but I don't reawaken after I go back to bed. Example: fall asleep at 12:30. alarm wakes me up at 6:30. Fall asleep. My other alarm wakes me up at 8:50--time to get up.

Do you use a lot of autosuggestion while falling asleep after the first alarm to get yourself to wake up again?

How long after the first alarm until you wake up again?

Does your technique require more than 9 hours of sleep or so to be available?

I dont use autosuggestion. Usually I just noticed that I woke up. Also your next brief awakening after falling asleep is usually 1 hour later.

so if the alarm goes off at 6:30am your next brief awakening should be at 7:30.

And yes this technique requires 8-9 hours of sleep. But remember this technique utilizes a really important time for inducing Lucid Dreams, so its worth it.

Just to add some more discussion to the topic, this morning at around 8am with all of the light shining into my room and half draped across the girlfriend next to me (i.e distractions).

I just woke up, for some reason I was feeling a certain way which is hard to describe - very tired, half asleep and half awake, kind of like a brief awakening but a little different...anyway, I didnt wild properly but i got very close, saw everything around me just before the final jump but didnt quite make it. I did with with 3 different visions including the backyard one first and they all did the same thing.

Does anyone else kind of get a feeling where they know they can jump into a WILD as soon as they close their eyes? bar the advanced dreamers of course!

Originally Posted by Swank

Does anyone else kind of get a feeling where they know they can jump into a WILD as soon as they close their eyes? bar the advanced dreamers of course!

i had something like that last night. i took some cold medicine that was making me really tired. then when i layed in bed i felt like if i had just woken up from 6 hours of sleep and like i could fall back asleep in seconds. i waited like 30 seconds and i started to see HI. then my brother walked in, talked to me, and turned on the TV. THE TRIPLE WHAMMY. that was also the first time i would have been lucid dreaming when i first went to bed.

geez people. quit being so gullible. This guy didn't create this method or anything of the sort - if anything, he only popularized it for you guys. Once you read copious amounts of material on dreaming and out-of-body experiences, you will notice that tactile sensations have always been prominently stressed. This guy is acting like he is some sort of guru in dreaming here because he can emulate millennia old techniques and claim them as his own.

Originally Posted by a.nomad

geez people. quit being so gullible. This guy didn't create this method or anything of the sort - if anything, he only popularized it for you guys. Once you read copious amounts of material on dreaming and out-of-body experiences, you will notice that tactile sensations have always been prominently stressed. This guy is acting like he is some sort of guru in dreaming here because he can emulate millennia old techniques and claim them as his own.

I kind of agree, but I'm sure he's just trying to help people out, but no your right he didn't create this method.

Originally Posted by a.nomad

geez people. quit being so gullible. This guy didn't create this method or anything of the sort - if anything, he only popularized it for you guys. Once you read copious amounts of material on dreaming and out-of-body experiences, you will notice that tactile sensations have always been prominently stressed. This guy is acting like he is some sort of guru in dreaming here because he can emulate millennia old techniques and claim them as his own.

First of all I did create this technique by myself, and if you think otherwise can you list some sources or prove it. This technique I developed took three months of fine tuning, and was originally based on WILD.

Yes this technique is "technically" WILD, but the way that I created it is different from all other methods/techniques I've read or seen before.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

First of all I did create this technique by myself, and if you think otherwise can you list some sources or prove it. This technique I developed took three months of fine tuning, and was originally based on WILD.

Yes this technique is "technically" WILD, but the way that I created it is different from all other methods/techniques I've read or seen before.

If this is different then anything you've seen before, then you really should follow the precepts of lurk moar. Or at least be more active in the community. I mean, seriously... you have 92 posts and you've made about 6 techniques already. Half of which have "ultimate" in the title.

This tech is a mix of VILD and DEILD. VILD is defined as "visually incubated lucid dream" which is exactly what this is. Hell, even malac had tactile stimulation is his crazy excuse for a tech. and then the DEILD side of it is the same as the 50 thousand other techs that deal with that...

And don't let me rain down on your parade. Your simplified versions work pretty well for people staring off. But please, educate yourself. You never seem to participate in anything outside your own threads and therefore you only know what you have gathered from trial and error. I hope you agree that it would be foolhardy to try and teach others when the only experiences you know of are your own. You have good potential but consistently show how isolated you are.

Lurk moar, post moar(in other people's threads), learn moar.