Thread: My Technique keeps working

It keeps working for me too!

Familiar tactile senstaions are the easiest way for me to enter a lucid dream during both brief midnight awakenings and full on WILDs.

I will try the 6-9 hour 'magic' time. Timing is normally where I end up ruining it for myself.

You have to sleep 6 hours and then go back to bad? oO; I think I'll just sleep till I'm not tired anymore. How should that work?

I'm a novice when it comes to lucid dreaming - I've had several but always they've happened spontaneously. But you mentioning that tactile sensations are important makes sense to me. My last LD happened when I dreamt I could 'feel' the rug I was sitting on (in the dream) - and bam! I was lucid! So maybe I'll try your method, see what happens

Originally Posted by exileblue

You have to sleep 6 hours and then go back to bad? oO; I think I'll just sleep till I'm not tired anymore. How should that work?

basically what you're looking for is the brief awakenings after 6 hours of sleep. Its hard to tell when 6 hours has passed while sleeping. So the easiest way is to set your alarm for 6 hours later, when it awakens you turn it off and go back to sleep.

Now you know that 6hours has passed, and the next time you have a brief awakening you can apply the visualization i mentioned.

Ah ok, so it's better to use this technique if I now that I can stay in bed as long as I want. I wanted to try it today, but have to wake up for school, but maybe I have some luck...

I'll try this. I tried the "backyard" method before, but never during a brief awakening.

I'll post results.

I'm glad I read this post...thinking back on the WILD I had recently, my successful entry into the dream pretty much followed this technique exactly, especially in regards to the emphasis on tactile sensation.

I've studied and practiced various techniques of visualization off and on for years, but have primarily focused on the visual aspect. I am learning (the hard way, through experience) that the tactile sensations are just as if not more important.

Also, the part you wrote "Its like you get sucked into the dream." is EXACTLY what it felt like when I transitioned from waking to sleep in my WILD. It was crazy, and has definitely increased my confidence and motivation to master this technique.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

This technique has worked consistently for the last couple of months and I'm finally going to reveal it.

1. You need to set your alarm clock so that you have at Least 6 hours of sleep.

2. When the alarm goes off just turn it off and go back to sleep.

3. The next time you have a brief awakening, lay in the supine position.

4. Relax, close your eyes, and start visualizing being in your backyard during daytime. Now start moving along the perimeter of your backyard and start touching things such as doors, garbage cans, walls,etc.

Tactile sensation IS VERY IMPORTANT when your visualizing. Without it, it will be very hard to enter a Lucid dream. I think the tactile sensation makes you forget about your real body and helps focus on your dream body.

5. Once you start walking around your backyard touching things as you go. You will know when you've entered the dream. Its like you get sucked into the dream.

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This may sound tedious, but it keeps working for me. Let me summarize again:

-minimum 6 hrs of sleep
-brief awakening
-Supine Position
-The Visualization (Tactile Sensations is Important!)


One things I've noticed consistently is that brief awakenings between 6 - 9 hours after falling asleep are very special. They're like a doorway to Lucidity. Before 6 hours it is very difficult to enter a dream , after 9 hours you'll be too awake during the brief awakening.

Nice! I also agree with you...I HATE! REALITY. It does nothing but create misery....

IMJ

Is it very likely that you'll have a brief awakening after sleeping six hours? I've woken up around that time before, but I don't remember waking up after that excect when I wake up at my normal time to go to work or whatever. Is this because I'm really not waking up or I'm just not remembering it?

Would it work the same if I just tried the supine and visualizations right after I wake up from the six hours of sleep? Has anybody tried it that way?

I'm thinking this would work better if you went around your backyard touching things in the evening before you go to sleep so that you have fresh memories of the tactile sensations (as well as making it a routine that might surface during your dreams).

Now a question though: I usually wake up after only 5 hours of sleep and have to take a bathroom break before going back to bed, otherwise I can't sleep comfortably for the remainder of the night. Would this inhibit the effectiveness of the procedure do you think? (ie: can you try it out and see if there's a marked differance?)

Well I was fortunate to wake up exactly six hours after falling asleep (with no alarm clock). As I went back to sleep I tried to incorporate tactile sensations into a visualization but I quickly lost focus and fell into normal dreaming sleep.



I am convinced though that tactile imaging has been the missing ingredient in my visualization exercises, so I will keep trying.

I think i'll try that on this weekend. I'll let you know how it works out. =)

i just did it again last night

It feels so cool when you get sucked into the dream. This time as i was headed for the garbage can and I felt the dream take over and Im like yeaaaaaaaa!!!

The coolest part about this technique is that it u get extremely real Lucids dreams this way.

thanks for the technique, I tried it last night with success!

At first i thought it wouldn't work, but as I was walking around the house, and touching the wall I felt this strange feeling come over me and then BOOM!! I was in a dream, it felt so cool, and yeah it was probably one of the most vivid Lucid Dreams I ever had.

It only lasted 2 minutes probably cuz i got to excited. You broke my long dry spell, so Im definelty going to try and master this technique.

The only thing I don't like about this is I have to chose between having a lucid dream or recording my dream. If I take the time to write down a dream, I miss my brief dream reentry window.

The normal scenario goes like this. I will wake up at 5 am, lie in bed trying to remember the last dream I had, consider whether or not I should write it down. If I decide it was good enough to write down, I know I've missed my chance at dream reentry. If I decide it wasn't, I've already let my mind wander too much by trying to remember, so I can't concentrate on this technique.

The only times I can get it to work are when I decide ahead of time I won't record any mid-night dreams. Then this takes a toll on my dream recall if I do it a couple nights in a row.

Any advice?

I've been working on imagenation and the tactile senses for quite awhile now I know of your thread, and I know of the princables behind the methods for almost a year, but I only recently put it to practice, it's challenging for me, the msot challenging purhaps is locking your focus on the imagenation, for me I imagine riding a bike, and I even create the track I ride on.

Your previous thread with all the good results people had inspired me to do it more often. See when I do it my focus keeps going back to my physical it's like a magnet for my focus, obviously if I occupy my inner senses with these things it seems to go away (kind of like the strong force that keeps atoms together from the natural results of electromagnitism), but the main focus I have now is prolonging those imagined senses.

Honestly I havn't actually sat down in the early morning very often and tried it.

I have an important question though, do you originaly sleep on your back, or your side, for me it's my side, and it's always worried me that I cannot go to sleep on my back.

i usually sleep on my back while im doing the re-entry into the dream and I put my hands crossed on my chest.

As for the visualization i walk around touching specific objects. For example ill rub my hands against the BBQ machine then walk over to my door and rub my hands on it it then walk over to a tree and rub my hands against it etc. until i enter a dream.

Personally I think that riding a bike, driving a car or doing anything extreme like that will make it very difficult to enter a dream. walking is your safest bet.



heres a typical backyard. The Tree, the windmill, the chairs are objects that you can touch.

I think this is a genuinely clever technique. I will try it this weekend. Thanks.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

i usually sleep on my back while im doing the re-entry into the dream and I put my hands crossed on my chest.

As for the visualization i walk around touching specific objects. For example ill rub my hands against the BBQ machine then walk over to my door and rub my hands on it it then walk over to a tree and rub my hands against it etc. until i enter a dream.

Personally I think that riding a bike, driving a car or doing anything extreme like that will make it very difficult to enter a dream. walking is your safest bet.



heres a typical backyard. The Tree, the windmill, the chairs are objects that you can touch.

Well I didn't mean well your doing dream re-entry I mean like most of the time when your just normaly going to sleep.

Well I visualize but it contstantly changes sometimes rapidly, and it's better in narrow areas, but I can do wide open ones, maybe I ought to try more of them. (like lifting heavier weights, helps build muscle faster)

Walking is difficult to simulate for me, and it doesn't contain very many senses, but come to think of it if I really focus on the gravity of it, and the solid ground beneith my feet it does tend to improve, maybe visualizations that involve walking around are best, I know of another guy whos really good at this and he does it walking.

Are you familiar with the Method of Loci? I think you should be aware of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

As human beings, we are programmed to remember progression through spaces. Its one of those genetic survival traits. People have been abusing this for thousands of years to remember long chains of information in a certain order.

The importance of this technique, I believe, relies on the use of a familiar space. Any progression through a space you are familiar with will work. I use my house and yard, and go room to room touching objects and door handles. I have a preset progression that I already use for my 'Memory Mansion".

I tried this this morning. It didn't work for me. I just slipped off into regular sleep, and when I woke, I didn't remember any dreams. I have to admit, I woke up after only 5:45 of sleep, which is still an hour more than I usually sleep before my WBTB, but not quite the 6 recommended. I'll give it a try before my WILD tomorrow morning.

H8, do you do this every night? Or do you take breaks? What would you say your success rate is?

Weston, do you have a dream journal? I'd like to read about your experience. Did you find yourself still in your back yard, or did you end up in a totally different scene?

Originally Posted by unseen wombat

I tried this this morning. It didn't work for me. I just slipped off into regular sleep, and when I woke, I didn't remember any dreams. I have to admit, I woke up after only 5:45 of sleep, which is still an hour more than I usually sleep before my WBTB, but not quite the 6 recommended. I'll give it a try before my WILD tomorrow morning.

H8, do you do this every night? Or do you take breaks? What would you say your success rate is?

Weston, do you have a dream journal? I'd like to read about your experience. Did you find yourself still in your back yard, or did you end up in a totally different scene?

I try it most nights, and it works 9/10 times if I do it correctly. I cant do it every night because Im in University and Some of my courses are at 8:00 so i have to wake up at 6:00 which doesnt give me enough time to fulfill the 6 hours needed

Also 6 hours is the minimum threshold that you have to pass. I noticed that most of my successes happen during brief awakenings around 7 hours after falling asleep.

About the dream journal. I never record my dreams. This technique doesnt need dream recall as other traditional methods do. For this technique recognizing brief awakenings are more important.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Are you familiar with the Method of Loci? I think you should be aware of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

As human beings, we are programmed to remember progression through spaces. Its one of those genetic survival traits. People have been abusing this for thousands of years to remember long chains of information in a certain order.

The importance of this technique, I believe, relies on the use of a familiar space. Any progression through a space you are familiar with will work. I use my house and yard, and go room to room touching objects and door handles. I have a preset progression that I already use for my 'Memory Mansion".

correct, visualizing somewhere you've never been is very difficult. A backyard is a perfect place to do his technique.

Originally Posted by I H8 Reality

correct, visualizing somewhere you've never been is very difficult. A backyard is a perfect place to do his technique.

I think it might help me to walk around my backyard, and house and look at everything before I goto bed. Then practice a bit to make sure I remember what it all looks like.

I have a bad memory when trying to imagine that. But it looks right in my lucids