and i can't seem to stay still for long enough while trying at the beginning of the night...i feel like i gotta move...but if i do make it...i feel like im in an extremely comfortable fuzzy white world of snooze....then i fall asleep |
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Okay, so i have had hundreds of lucid dreams using RC's and WBTB and the WBTB WILD combo. A long time ago..like last year i tried WILDing a few times at the beginning of the night and was almost successful...like i went into SP and everything, and even started vibrating and shit. I was wondering, does anyone have any experience with WILDing at the beginning of the night? I am certain it is possible, but i dunno it would be nice if anyone else can share if they know if there's any difference...i'm damn tired of getting up in the middle of the night all of the time... |
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Last edited by Tearadox; 06-18-2008 at 05:54 AM.
and i can't seem to stay still for long enough while trying at the beginning of the night...i feel like i gotta move...but if i do make it...i feel like im in an extremely comfortable fuzzy white world of snooze....then i fall asleep |
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SUPERPROFUNDO ON THE EARLY EVE OF YOUR DAY MAN...
Don't have WILDing experience myself, but I've gotten into SP at the beginning several times now without too much difficulty. From what I hear its definitely possible to dream, its just not as effective because the REM cycles aren't as long. Its also more difficult to get there at that point in the night. Definitely worth a try though, especially since you have all that WILDing experience already. Should come easy to you I would think. |
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Last edited by Speesh; 06-18-2008 at 06:19 AM.
The first time I tried WILDing was before I went to bed, I expierenced a big jolt through my body but never was able to enter the dream, I believe it was partly because I was freaked out but also I have heard that it is very difficult to WILD before going to bed because you have not started entering REM sleep in which case dreaming occurs |
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apparently it can be done...something about REM relapse...and I THINK this has something to do with sleep deprevation. Its not always possible. |
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it IS always possible, although sleep deprevation sends you directly into the perfect sleeping state to dream right in the beginning. i have been attempting to WILD when i first go to bed for a while now, and have succeeded multiple times. the lucid dreams themselves do not last as long and seem somewhat less vivid, but that first dream can send you into a deeper sleep that comes with more vivid dreams, although u might lose lucidity by that time. i think it is much easier to stay completely conscious when you WILD in the beggining of the night. when i WBTB i end up just realizing im dreaming. i never do a full on WILD exept for in the beggining of the night.... |
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Ive done some meditating in the past in the late afternoon which seemed to help with concentration...What style of meditation are you suggesting exactly? I may just have to give it a try... |
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SUPERPROFUNDO ON THE EARLY EVE OF YOUR DAY MAN...
how long of a sleep deprivation? ive stayed up for five days straight before and got some crazy cool hallucinations and shit, but i didnt remember ANY dreams for about a week after that...but then again i wasnt trying to remember them, and was definitely not WILDing... |
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SUPERPROFUNDO ON THE EARLY EVE OF YOUR DAY MAN...
breath awareness technique works great, also one point concentration technique. |
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Anything that helps with mind control really, I find any meditation without a spiritual aspect to it works. I'm a fan of Zen because its less spiritual and much more worldly. Also I've found that any meditation with the word 'mindfulness' in it is worth checking out, I've heard establishing a good state of mindfulness during the day helps make your dreams more vivid at night. |
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Close your eyes. |
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I always try this. I try to WBTB as well but I find it at least have better dream recall if I am so intent on dreaming when I FIRST go to bed. However, I have only gotten past light sleep paralysis. I have felt the jolts. |
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SP, body vibrations, body tingling, feeling of floating, weird depth perception, HI; basically every feeling people describe when trying to WILD, I can get all these minutes after I lay down to go to sleep. I've often questioned just what the hell was going on some nights, before I knew anything about LDing. I am very new to even the whole concept of lucid dreaming though, and I havnt ever had a lucid dream. Im still quite fascinated by the whole concept. |
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Last edited by LucidFreedoM; 06-19-2008 at 09:44 AM.
I've been trying this out lately. So far I haven't had any success getting into a dream, but I did manange to make it to SP. I find it very difficult unless I'm extremely tired; otherwise I keep myself awake for a while tossing and turning. |
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