TILD (Trance Induced Lucid Dream)

**DreamChaser** · 07-30-2008 10:47 PM

Although not religious at all, this technique uses the same trance methods as Suki dancers and many worldwide trance-based rituals.
All this needs like any other method here is belief. Our is belief is Lucidity.
I have done it many times, and do not believe in much. Lol.
All I ask is you try this once. Not a fluffy long-term progression.

The trick is to keep things simple. We don't wan't a 15 step method. It's really 2 steps:

1) Before bed, make sure you are alone. It may be embarrassing what I ask of you. Sit (not lie) in a chair where you are not disturbed or seen.
Relax completely and diminish any daily thoughts over 1-2 minutes. ( I mean diminish...throw out thoughts that come in) and replace them with "I will move to Lucidity as I near 10".
Now I know you are wondering what I mean by this, but I assure you it will make good sense.
Now all you will try to have in your mind are those words "I will move to Lucidity as I reach 10".
After 2 minutes of ridding daily thoughts, start to move your head (and shoulders if you wish) back and forwards as you count one to ten, with fully forward and back to start position as one count.
From head upright to about a heads width forward, then back. A move forward and return to upright should be the length it takes you to say the chant.
Even pivot forward and back at the "waist" if you have room. That feels even better and gives more motion, and saves the neck.
There is no set distance, but just feel the movement and get in a trance like sway back and forward. Don't be uncomfortable.
Intensify the move, and the volume of the same words each count until you reach 10, then start again from scratch.
You can do it out loud or in your head is easier for the escalating volume. Then keep repeating, only for FIVE minutes before bed.
This is the MOST Important step.

2) As you lie in bed get as relaxed as you can. The next step, as you go to sleep and also at any time you wake (I suggest setting alarm to a in between REM cycles or when you awaken),
remember yourself sitting in your chair doing the trance movements (picture it in your mind) and repeat them in your head counting one to ten (as you did in your chair) but NOT physically moving now at all.
See the movement and hear yourself in your MIND. Count to ten and start again feeling the motion and hearing the words you spoke harder each count towards 10 and louder each time as you reach ten.
You will almost feel your head begin to move it is that real to you. Then repeat again and again, until you go to sleep, or go Lucid.

It is an easy process, and one I have had great success with.
As I said I only ask you try once, doing it to the letter though, and then I welcome feedback.

**Shift** · 07-30-2008 11:12 PM

Sounds interesting... I don't have a chair in my bedroom right now, but when my vacation ends I'll definitely see if I can get any luck.

**DreamChaser** · 07-31-2008 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by Shift

Sounds interesting... I don't have a chair in my bedroom right now, but when my vacation ends I'll definitely see if I can get any luck.

You can just sit on your bed and do if is it's private.
Just hard to actually move back and forward if you are lying down for the first part of the technique.
Is why I suggested sitting.

**MRooney** · 07-31-2008 06:29 AM

This sounds freaky. I have to try it! Thanks. You go lucid right from going to sleep?

**DreamChaser** · 07-31-2008 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by MRooney

This sounds freaky. I have to try it! Thanks. You go lucid right from going to sleep?

I have once and went into a false awakening then Lucid.
Doing it before bed sitting up and while you go to sleep doing it in your head:
preps you thinking about Lucidity,
gives you a focus,
gives you a visualisation,
gives you the needed movement in your mind,
the repetitive nature of the visualisation helps you off to sleep,
makes sure gaining Lucidity is the last thing on your mind before falling asleep.

Please do not purposefully try to stay awake doing this immediately at bedtime.

**Seraphic8X** · 07-31-2008 04:30 PM

It actually seems very plausible when you think about it, great tutorial. I think i'll give it a try when I get a chance, one thing though; When you say fully forward and backward, you mean as far as your head will go forward and back without feeling any pain right? And by Intensify the movements, do you mean faster?

**DreamChaser** · 07-31-2008 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphic8X

It actually seems very plausible when you think about it, great tutorial. I think i'll give it a try when I get a chance, one thing though; When you say fully forward and backward, you mean as far as your head will go forward and back without feeling any pain right? And by Intensify the movements, do you mean faster?

I actually meant "fully forward and back" as to describe the count, not the distance of the motion.

From head upright to about a heads width forward, then back.
Even pivot forward and back at the waist if you have room. That feels even better and gives more motion, and saves the neck.

In fact I will add that to the initial Tut. Please skim over it again for the updates.

There is no set distance, but just fell the movement and get in a trance like sway back and forward. Don't be uncomfortable.
It is quite relaxing and does everything I said in the Tut.
(the tut took me like 10 mins to write. Lol). Was trying to keep it as simple as possible.

**Abra** · 07-31-2008 08:07 PM

This technique is actually pretty well thought out! I may seriously try it. ;D

**DreamChaser** · 07-31-2008 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Abra

This technique is actually pretty well thought out! I may seriously try it. ;D

It's really cool and trippy too.
And best thing it only takes a few minutes (like 7),
Then you do it in your mind when you need to, going to sleep and/or with wakes too.
You actually trance yourself Lucid, and it really helps to be doing it going to sleep so it's the last thing remember.

**DreamChaser** · 08-01-2008 06:05 PM

UPDATE:

Had 3 linked Lucids last night using this technique, with a WBTB at 3am for 15mins.
You should try it. It is an easy technique to try.
Just remember the pre-bed trance moves must be done.

**-Blakren-** · 08-01-2008 06:40 PM

I think I'll try it tonight! every thing else doesn't work all that well.

**Robot_Butler** · 08-01-2008 07:19 PM

That's a great idea. I've been toying with the idea of practicing something in waking life, so I can then imagine it during a WILD. I will try your swaying and chanting. I can imagine it working well, so it probably will

**DreamChaser** · 08-20-2008 10:08 PM

Anyone tried this yet?

(other than me?)

**DreamChaser** · 08-26-2008 06:18 PM

Little road bump.

**MRooney** · 08-26-2008 06:30 PM

I've been trying this the past few nights. It seems to be working, I can 'feel' my body moving while I'm in bed. It's like when you've been in the ocean all day and you still feel the waves. I haven't gotten lucid yet.

**DreamChaser** · 08-26-2008 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by MRooney

I've been trying this the past few nights. It seems to be working, I can 'feel' my body moving while I'm in bed. It's like when you've been in the ocean all day and you still feel the waves. I haven't gotten lucid yet.

Fantastic.
We have seen the movement really transcends to Lucidity.
Count and chant in your mind as you go to sleep and feel yourself moving as you practiced.
But remember don't actually move.
Great going!

**DreamChaser** · 09-02-2008 09:46 AM

Bump.

**Sony86** · 09-02-2008 11:30 AM

Haha, you just jammed like twenty steps into two to make it appear more simple

Sounds promising though, I'll give it my best shot

**DreamChaser** · 09-02-2008 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sony86

Haha, you just jammed like twenty steps into two to make it appear more simple

Sounds promising though, I'll give it my best shot

Lol. The first part is really one process and the second part is another when going to sleep.
Just didn't want to do like a 10 line sentence. Hehe.

Good luck. It may feel a bit weird at first, but you get into it. Great to relax you too.
It has worked well for me and many friends.

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