Thread: Want to participate in a new technique experiment?

Attached the program that I promised for Windows owners. If you would like a program for Mac instead of using the Alarm Clock 2 and M4A then let me know. Same goes with Linux users.

Thanks for the alarm ninja. That will make this a heck of a lot easier to deal when I'm groggy and all thumbs at 5 am.



I'll be using it this weekend, starting tonight.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Clairity uses a vibrating watch. You could try and find one of them.

It's actually a vibrating "clock" not a watch. If you're married (or have to share quarters) and, if you can afford it..(and you think "vibrations" would wake you).. I highly recommend getting an "Invisible Clock".

This small clock can be set to vibrate or beep or both. There are three vibration levels and you can set up to 12 alarms! I often use the vibration setting on the highest level, wrap the small clock in a face towel and simply lay the clock so that it's pressed against my body. The vibration isn't "jarring" and another plus to a vibrating clock is that it doesn't disturb anyone else when it goes off (not even my husband who is laying right next to me)!

Below is one of the websites that sell the Invisible Clock: http://www.buddhasplace.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=IC101&Catego ry_Code=Clocks

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Originally Posted by Clairity

This small clock can be set to vibrate or beep or both. There are three vibration levels and you can set up to 12 alarms! I often use the vibration setting on the highest level, wrap the small clock in a face towel and simply lay the clock so that it's pressed against my body. The vibration isn't "jarring" and another plus to a vibrating clock is that it doesn't disturb anyone else when it goes off (not even my husband who is laying right next to me)!

Clairity... Do you just copy/paste that block of text every time the Invisible Clock shows up? It sounds really familiar...
Nice timesaver!

Well, I haven't specfically tried it. But let me tell you, it has the potential to work.

I took an (accidental) three and a half hour nap beginning at six last night. I had somewhat good recall with that nap dream. I then went to bed at about 12:45 AM and fell asleep about either 1 or 1:25 AM.

Throughout the night, because I got so much sleep already, i had trouble falling asleep. My sleep so far (it's currently 3 AM in PA) has been extremely light, characterized by many possible false awakenings and going in-and-out of many dreams. I hope you understand what I mean. It's probably happened to all of you maybe a few times a year.

Anyway, I managed (through a DILD though) to get one my most vivid and best lucids yet. It was kinda short but very clear.

So, there is logic in lightening sleep. This can work!

I had pain all night from tendonitis in my knee and didn't get to sleep until nearly three so I didn't attempt it last night. Will try tonight.

I got a LD early this morning after using the mp3.

I think it was a DILD though, not a WILD. I don't remember what made me lucid but as soon as I knew I was dreaming the dream changed to me being in my bed with in dream SP (as what happens when I WILD) so the entire lucid experience felt more like a WILD than a DILD.

Very simply, I was locked in dream SP and levitated out of it. I then sat on the edge of my bed in my dark bedroom. I looked out the window in front of me. It was dark outside as well. I used the window pane as a screen to project my intentions onto. Eventually I saw a human shape shadow that intrigued me. I waved the shadow out of the window pane and we just stared at each other until I woke up.

*edit*

I also listened to Lucid Ground before I went to sleep.

Saltcube's timer could easily be used for this, if you enter your values manually.

http://www.saltcube.com/timer.html

So I got the audiofile on my iPod, set an alarm for 3:30, put my earphones in, and went to sleep. I went through the cycles from 3:30 to 4:00, and fell asleep with no dreams. I didn't stay up long when the alarm went off, jusst a few seconds, and I was out again.

I woke up around 7:00 after a dream, and tried listening to the alarm again. The sleep was too light to really yield anything, and I got up right before the last alarm.



I'll try to do it again tonight.

Last night I had two lucid dreams. I don't remember if they were during the experiment or separate. Unfortunately halfway through the technique, I had to go to the bathroom and couldn't get back to sleep.

Gah.....the mp3 version won't play on my computer. What kind of file is it??

It's an M4A, a regular iTunes / iPod file. Try it in iTunes.

I would love to try this! My only concern is that an alarm will get my heart pounding (always does) and I may not be able to fall back asleep in the alotted time But, I will try it!

I am trying the MP 3 tonight, will let you know what results i get with it

Originally Posted by Shift

I would love to try this! My only concern is that an alarm will get my heart pounding (always does) and I may not be able to fall back asleep in the alotted time But, I will try it!

Only the first one should be a jarring awakening, your mind should expect the next one so it shouldn't increase your heart rate.

I tried this and didn't get lucid tho I did have a really cool, vivid and easily recallable dream later on that morning.

I didn't find it hard to go back to sleep after the alarms went off but I think I had a lot of FAs.. wondering how many times the alarms had gone off or what alarm this one was of the 4.. it seemed like they kept going off.

One thing I will definately do the next time I try this is to reality check after every alarm!

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Only the first one should be a jarring awakening, your mind should expect the next one so it shouldn't increase your heart rate.

But still, I don't think I could manage to get back to sleep within 40 min, let alone 16, so the alarms might just prevent me from dozing off again. I guess I could use a softer alarm, like just a vibration. Also then my dorm-neighbors probably won't hate me . Like I said, I'll give it a try and experiment til I find something that works

Originally Posted by ninja9578

It's an M4A, a regular iTunes / iPod file. Try it in iTunes.

Hmm...that might be my problem; I don't have iTunes.

I can't open it either, and I have iTunes. I think it is a .zip and iTunes uses mp3 or WMV or somthing. Hell, I have no idea what I am talking about.

You have to unzip it first. It's an M4A zipped up to make the download smaller. Unzip with with your operating system, then open it with iTunes.

WILL BE ATTEMPTING THIS TONIGHT!!! I hope I get my first lucid!!!

Hope so.

Going off of what Clarity said, i feel like this technique would yield a lot of false awakenings. Are there any times we should do a RC after the timer wakes us up?

I can't seem to DownLoad this file! I keep trying and it's confusing, I extract it and it doesn't work right...and I'm just getting stressed out.

Could someone help?