Thread: Want to participate in a new technique experiment?

Looks like you found a program, that's good. I wrote a program for Linux, but didn't compile it for it.

Yeah =]

I tried this technique last night and it didn't work...I couldn't fall back to sleep. I'm going to keep on trying and see how it goes.

Gah. I keep just falling back to sleep. I'm just TOO tired!!! :[

You're supposed to fall back to sleep, only try and WILD the last time. Maybe I should make that alarm different so that you know that you should WILD. Will post a new MP3 tomorrow

I know. My problem is I finally just turn off my phone to stop the alarm.

(Firstly, I'm in a hurry to get out the door so skipped a couple of pages of the thread so apologies if this has already been suggested)

Ninja do you reckon it would be better to use a visual aid at the moment of truth rather than a different sounding alarm..

Like for the first few alarms, a red flasher and then at the key alarm use a green flasher.. I'm a programmer and if your interested I could make a fully customizable program so that a user can set specific start times with ease so they could experiment with the start time or subsequent times for better documentation of results.. That way if a person takes longer to get to sleep then he or she could set the start time to like 4:45 or 4:52 if they wanted..

Also, as a variation to the visual cue at the key moment, I could set it so that a certain image was displayed on the screen to aid the persons creation of a particualr scene in their heads.. So like each user can upload their own scenes to the program to display at the crucial moment to induce their preferrered environment..

Interested..?

MrDamon, I can't speak for ninja.. but I think a visual cue that would display a certain image (or images) on my screen would be great and it would definately help me create a specific scene in my head (and hopefully to dream about it).

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I know that I can't see my computer when my alarms go off, but I could program that if you'd like. I'll start programming something like that later if you want, I'll make it cross platform, but someone else would have to compile the Windows version because I don't have the compiler.

I'll do what I can on the Windows side..

Was just working on it a bit earlier.. headin off to bed now so will touch on it again tomorrow and i'll let ya know when i'm done so you can check it out..

I'll use GLUT and OpenGL and write it in GNU C so that you can compiler it on Windows without having to change anything.

I've only got experience with Visual basic myself but i'll take a look and see what I can do..

*ninja's head explodes at the thought of VB*

Lol.. hope thats not a bad thing.. I get what I need out of it without having to learn too much.. Got limited Gigabytes left in this brain!

I'm off to bed, later...

Sorry for the double post - Ninja, you reckon it would be a good idea for the people who are too tired when they wake up to record their voice giving the order to attempt WILD and have that sound file play at the key moment.. I think it might be worth a shot to anyone who's willing to make their own sound file..

I'll surely trying this tonight! Maybe I'll even get my little bro to try it too I'll post the results tomorrow!

Ok, I will be able to do it now... considering I'm done with CAT lol

Tried this last night. I was having troubles with my alarm, so I was only able to set 3 alarms. I calculated my REM time and judged 5:00 AM to land at the start of a REM period, so my alarms were 5:00, 5:16, and 5:24. Didn't go lucid, I think I just dropped off too fast to seriously attempt a WILD.

More importantly, I clearly recall my alarm going off 4 times, so I had a false awakening in there somewhere. Do yourself a favor, do a reality check! I would advise against using a clock RC in this case, because time is a major factor in getting this to work, your brain will likely devote extra attention to getting the time to stay steady and realistic.

It's expected that you drop off fast, that's what makes it so easy to WILD

I'm done taking care of my father's dogs and will resume testing tonight.

damn alarm set off the wrong file again

I suggest everyone have a backup alarm for the time they need to rise in the morning, to make sure that in your grogginess you don't get into the habit of turning off ALL alarms and missing class like I did the other day

Oops, sorry shift

FYI: I'm considering this a primary study to see if doing a real study is worth it. The real study will be much better controlled and take place in the research forum.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Oops, sorry shift

FYI: I'm considering this a primary study to see if doing a real study is worth it. The real study will be much better controlled and take place in the research forum.

haha I should have known better. My mind is so screwy when I first wake up, sometimes I'll be like "Oh it's 6... if I sleep in for 45 minutes, I can get up at 7:45 and then I'll have until 8:00 to get ready, oh yes, that gives me two hours, that's plenty of time." Just total absence of logic when it comes to resetting an alarm clock when I'm groggy lmao Instead of waking up while I am still in a dream, it's like still being in a dream when I wake up So yea, backup alarms are my bff

Well, I tried 5 o'clock instead of 4:30 and found that I'm not in REM at that time so I'm going back to 4:30.

Funny, I'm in REM around 4:30 as well!!!