Thread: How To Induce Someone Else Into Lucidity(The Technique)

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

It seems like you are inducing a hypnotic state of some sort which is comparable to dreaming/sleep.

For one, it is extremely unusual to start dreaming the moment after you initially fall asleep, unless you're polyphasic. Secondly, due to sleep paralysis, you should not be able to respond by movement other than with your eyeballs, as laberge has demonstrated.

well all attitude aside, you should atleast read the full technique before you try to disprove it. Allow me to quote myself too.

"Develop a form of communication, such as "Lifting a finger for yes" type of deal so the subject doesnt have to speak.
Some will fight saying that you cannot enter sleep paralysis and lift the finger, but its been done in my own personal experience....Twice."

I've been researching Stephen Laberge for months now, and he's also said "This may not work for you,blah blah"...some effects vary from person to person...you should know that.
Theres also something called Partial Sleep Paralysis as well.
Another thing, when you are hypnotizing someone into lucidity, you are communicating with the subconcious mind, not the awareness...so if you're brain really wants your finger to move, it's gonna move whether you do it yourself or not. I've been with my girlfriend for over a year so theres trust, and not to mention when you speak about a loved one who's passed away months before and they wake up crying, it's a dead sign.
I've done this same technique with her twice and it produced the same results, not to mention shes an every-sunday christian and she swore to me, (with hand on Bible),she had no recollection of what I had said, except for the Triggerwords and the dream state itself.
So try it if you want, if not...dont.
but dont try to disprove what i'm saying until you've tried it yourself.

Originally Posted by juiceyfruit1714

well all attitude aside, you should atleast read the full technique before you try to disprove it. Allow me to quote myself too.

"Develop a form of communication, such as "Lifting a finger for yes" type of deal so the subject doesnt have to speak.
Some will fight saying that you cannot enter sleep paralysis and lift the finger, but its been done in my own personal experience....Twice."

I've been researching Stephen Laberge for months now, and he's also said "This may not work for you,blah blah"...some effects vary from person to person...you should know that.
Theres also something called Partial Sleep Paralysis as well.
Another thing, when you are hypnotizing someone into lucidity, you are communicating with the subconcious mind, not the awareness...so if you're brain really wants your finger to move, it's gonna move whether you do it yourself or not. I've been with my girlfriend for over a year so theres trust, and not to mention when you speak about a loved one who's passed away months before and they wake up crying, it's a dead sign.
I've done this same technique with her twice and it produced the same results, not to mention shes an every-sunday christian and she swore to me, (with hand on Bible),she had no recollection of what I had said, except for the Triggerwords and the dream state itself.
So try it if you want, if not...dont.
but dont try to disprove what i'm saying until you've tried it yourself.

I've have done nearly identical techniques, your steps are no different from the average hypnotism tech. Hypnotism has been proven to alter brain waves and the trance it can produce has been shown measurably similar to dreaming, but there is still many key differences.

It means nothing that your gf doesn't remember you speaking, that is common with hypnotism.

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

I've have done nearly identical techniques, your steps are no different from the average hypnotism tech. Hypnotism has been proven to alter brain waves and the trance it can produce has been shown measurably similar to dreaming, but there is still many key differences.

It means nothing that your gf doesn't remember you speaking, that is common with hypnotism.

well if you've done nearly identical techniques then how you gonna tell me she couldnt move her finger? There are several parts of my technique i developed Myself.
You didnt do anything but prove me right, so thanks but no thanks.
And, if thats common with hypnotism then that apparently means something, appropriately called "The Truth".
Secondly, I posted this technique for people that DONT know how to do it, not for people who claim to know everything about it/self acknowledged "hypnotists".

Originally Posted by juiceyfruit1714

well if you've done nearly identical techniques then how you gonna tell me she couldnt move her finger? There are several parts of my technique i developed Myself.
You didnt do anything but prove me right, so thanks but no thanks.
And, if thats common with hypnotism then that apparently means something, appropriately called "The Truth".
Secondly, I posted this technique for people that DONT know how to do it, not for people who claim to know everything about it/self acknowledged "hypnotists".

I'm not saying she didn't move her finger, I'm saying she wasn't actually asleep. Like I said, hypnotic states are somewhat similar to sleeping, but studies have shown major differences, i will dig some references up later.

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

I'm not saying she didn't move her finger, I'm saying she wasn't actually asleep. Like I said, hypnotic states are somewhat similar to sleeping, but studies have shown major differences, i will dig some references up later.

you need to be way more specific when you talk about things because i can take that 2 ways, i can get defensive because you're callin me a liar, or i'm misunderstanding something about what im doin.
So make more sense next timehahah

I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm just saying that even though the experience may seem extremely similar to a lucid dream, its technically different. I'm sure its a very effective technique and I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying it. Its just the way you have it worded right now makes it seem like this is a method for lucid dream induction.

Originally Posted by lucid4sho

I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm just saying that even though the experience may seem extremely similar to a lucid dream, its technically different. I'm sure its a very effective technique and I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying it. Its just the way you have it worded right now makes it seem like this is a method for lucid dream induction.

well if they're so closely related then im sure It wouldnt be too farfetched to call this a lucid dream induction. What my girlfriend felt and experience was almost exactly the same as a lucid dream, so it's also a good alternative. I'm willin to learn more about the difference if thats the case,i've only been "dreaming" for about 2 months, i'm dont know everything.