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      Quote Originally Posted by juiceyfruit1714 View Post
      well if you've done nearly identical techniques then how you gonna tell me she couldnt move her finger? There are several parts of my technique i developed Myself.
      You didnt do anything but prove me right, so thanks but no thanks.
      And, if thats common with hypnotism then that apparently means something, appropriately called "The Truth".
      Secondly, I posted this technique for people that DONT know how to do it, not for people who claim to know everything about it/self acknowledged "hypnotists".
      I'm not saying she didn't move her finger, I'm saying she wasn't actually asleep. Like I said, hypnotic states are somewhat similar to sleeping, but studies have shown major differences, i will dig some references up later.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      I'm not saying she didn't move her finger, I'm saying she wasn't actually asleep. Like I said, hypnotic states are somewhat similar to sleeping, but studies have shown major differences, i will dig some references up later.
      you need to be way more specific when you talk about things because i can take that 2 ways, i can get defensive because you're callin me a liar, or i'm misunderstanding something about what im doin.
      So make more sense next timehahah
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      I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm just saying that even though the experience may seem extremely similar to a lucid dream, its technically different. I'm sure its a very effective technique and I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying it. Its just the way you have it worded right now makes it seem like this is a method for lucid dream induction.
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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      Quote Originally Posted by lucid4sho View Post
      I'm not trying to be offensive. I'm just saying that even though the experience may seem extremely similar to a lucid dream, its technically different. I'm sure its a very effective technique and I wouldn't discourage anyone from trying it. Its just the way you have it worded right now makes it seem like this is a method for lucid dream induction.
      well if they're so closely related then im sure It wouldnt be too farfetched to call this a lucid dream induction. What my girlfriend felt and experience was almost exactly the same as a lucid dream, so it's also a good alternative. I'm willin to learn more about the difference if thats the case,i've only been "dreaming" for about 2 months, i'm dont know everything.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juiceyfruit1714 View Post
      well if they're so closely related then im sure It wouldnt be too farfetched to call this a lucid dream induction. What my girlfriend felt and experience was almost exactly the same as a lucid dream, so it's also a good alternative. I'm willin to learn more about the difference if thats the case, i've only been "dreaming" for about 2 months, i'm dont know everything.
      Ya, technically they are potentially near identical, but not for most. The general consensus is that about 30% of people have moderate susceptibility to hypnotism, but far under 1% are extremely reactive, which is why many hypnotist have used sodium pentothal to raise the odds. If you are under 25 or especially 18 then you have a much better chance of being able to enter a hypnotic state.

      If your gf entered a hypnotic state similar to an ld then she is one of the rare people able to do this. If you continue trying these techniques on different people you will find it won't have such impressive results with most of them, but about 1 in 3 will experience some type of alteration.

      Here is some info that supports the perceived realness of the hypnotic state;

      "In the last decade, brain scanning technology has made it possible to observe hypnosis' effects in the brain. PET scans, fMRI scans, and EEG coherence measures have shown that hypnotic hallucinations can elicit the same brain activity as real experiences.

      Stated another way, the brain-scan of a "highly hypnotizable" person is the same whether they are seeing real colors or being told, under hypnosis, that grayscale drawings are colored.[54]

      Similarly, PET scans of highly hypnotizable people showed that subjects' anterior cingulate cortexes were just as active when subjects experienced audio hallucinations as when subjects heard real sounds. Scientific American noted that "...in contrast, that brain area was not active while the subjects were imagining that they heard the stimulus."[25] wikipedia
      "If you realize Sunyata (the void), compassion will arise within your hearts; and when you lose all differentiation between yourself and others, then you will be fit to serve others." - Milarepa


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