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      Quote Originally Posted by moonshine View Post
      What are you banging on about Thor? Of course I can. As of course can the author of the original work. My sincere apologies for quoting from a popular science book written by a PHD and a Fellow of medicine. What was I thinking.

      If you want an complete list of references, buy the book
      A mere list of references is not sufficient by itself; each particular claim needs to be supported by at least one reference.

      Although in point of fact it seems to be a relatively insignificant proportion of dreams, which probably co-incide with the transition period when Muscle (REM) atonia is kicking in at the start and end of NREM periods.
      Some studies cite figures of 10-30%, while the more conservative studies cite 5-10%. This is very significant. And quite to the contrary of what you are saying, many of these dream reports were obtained nowhere near REM sleep. You can find the citations in note 11 of What Every Lucid Dreamer Should Know About Sleep Paralysis. In particular the NREM dream report quoted in that note was obtained 25 minutes after the last REM episode.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Thor View Post
      A mere list of references is not sufficient by itself; each particular claim needs to be supported by at least one reference.
      Yet again, says you.

      But look.....
      http://www.amazon.com/Counting-Sheep...0859417&sr=8-2

      Dr Martin appears to have been able to publish an index of references at the back of the book without breaking the laws of space time and causing a chain reaction which destroys the universe.

      Go figure
      Last edited by moonshine; 04-27-2009 at 08:42 PM.
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      (TOTAL: 108 )

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