Thread: Another set of LD

Constant change of scene.

You need to force 'hop' between your lucid dreams if you don't want to loose lucidity or wake up. ( If you loose lucidity, the result will probably be forgotten additional dreaming. )

Use the spin technique to change the scene, or maintain lucidity. ( Spin around and recreate the scenery, or otherwise re-persieve it. )

I wish I had them nearly as frequently as you.

Check this link out http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=70131 it's the dream stabilization tutorial, should help or at least point you in the right direction!

Originally Posted by LordSturm

Constant change of scene.

You need to force 'hop' between your lucid dreams if you don't want to loose lucidity or wake up. ( If you loose lucidity, the result will probably be forgotten additional dreaming. )

Use the spin technique to change the scene, or maintain lucidity. ( Spin around and recreate the scenery, or otherwise re-persieve it. )

I wish I had them nearly as frequently as you.

Yes, I linked 4 LDs the other morning using the spinning. Yes 4.
As I faded out to black and it lost intensity, I pictured myself (like a sorta doll) spinning like an ice-skater, and flung back into a LD.
Was sorta the same one, but often is a little different, but that is the nature of dreams.
Was 4 times like this back to LDs and then it seemed like I had my quota or something, and slipped into a normal dream.
Still, was quite a ride, and I was so content when I awakwened at accomplishing this.
(For me when I tried to spin, in dream, I got too excited and lost intensity. This seems only to be for me tho, I wait till it fades to black and I am watching the black wide awake, before spinning)

Originally Posted by DreamChaser

Yes, I linked 4 LDs the other morning using the spinning. Yes 4.
As I faded out to black and it lost intensity, I pictured myself (like a sorta doll) spinning like an ice-skater, and flung back into a LD.
Was sorta the same one, but often is a little different, but that is the nature of dreams.
Was 4 times like this back to LDs and then it seemed like I had my quota or something, and slipped into a normal dream.
Still, was quite a ride, and I was so content when I awakwened at accomplishing this.
(For me when I tried to spin, in dream, I got too excited and lost intensity. This seems only to be for me tho, I wait till it fades to black and I am watching the black wide awake, before spinning)

I hate knowing so much about something, but not being able to do it...
I have lots of knowledge, but little experience. lol.

Originally Posted by imj

You are a natural? A normal person will not be able to have so many DILDs. And no, don't correct me or prove that I'm wrong...I know it's not possible unless the brain is already lucid material.

IMJ

proof? evidence? support? sources? that sounds like a whole load of bs to me. What exactly is 'lucid material'?

Don't try to prove that I'm wrong? That's a great stance to take on an issue, too. What are you, a neuroscientist?

I'm not a natural and I've managed to have 5 lucids in one night. And these were WILDs, not DILDs.

These incidents are the first time I've been lucid.
I may have before but I have terrible recall (Working on it).

Originally Posted by IMJ

So you don't agree because I'm not a neuroscientist? 3 years and yes I'm sure enough to make that stance. How do you know if you had the gift or not. You say you can have 5? per night? From what...practise? Trying to fall asleep concious?...I don't believe it, you must already have some concious residue to cling on when you fall asleep, lucid material...built into you by default. And yeah you will want proof right...well what I have is common sense and logic. Of course LDing is still achievable but seeing posts like "10 per night" or "10 per week"....give me a break, it's just putting high unreachable goals on other people.

IMJ

Not possible? So just shut up?

So, because you hold yourself to ridiculously low standards, you say that it's impossible for anyone else to do these things and that everyone else should be held to them as well? In 3 years, you've learned everything there possibly is to know and experienced everything that anyone is able to experience?

Why hold others back with these beliefs, touting them as fact when they're simply false? It's perfectly possible to have 5+ lucid dreams per night. Yes, practice helps. So does WILDing (through DEILDs, in my case.) But who are you to tell others that they can't have more lucid dreams than that, even DILDs? Maybe they're that good. Maybe they've raised their overall awareness to a high enough level. Maybe they kick ass at WILDs. Who knows? If you don't even know what makes a 'natural' a natural, how can you say that it's impossible for a practitioner to achieve that same LD frequency? What evidence do you have to support the notion that it's completely impossible? Logic and common sense? What does that have to do with anything, when you're clearly not being logical and don't know everything and so can't make such definitive statements? Are you discounting all the experiences of people who have managed to chain lucid dreams? You could get ten a week easily, if you practiced WILDs and could do them well enough.

What exactly is 'lucid material'? What makes it different from regular brain matter? Where is lucid material located? Maybe it's a matter of neuroplasticity, maybe not, but even from that position, could you please define what 'lucid material' is and what makes it different from other cells? I would very much like to know so that I could read more about it.

If you're gonna make such claims, at least support yourself with something, rather than telling others to shut up. That's just rude.

I'm not a neuroscientist remember? So what I say is invalid cause I'm not so Y would I waste my time telling you what I know after 3 years? It's either you believe it or you don't and continue thinking that it's practise that keeps your LDing going. I'm not hardup for worshippers that I am all knowing and the ultimate truth god for LDing...just that it's the way the mind works when it's sleeping..simple as that. I din't create the mind that way, it already is.

IMJ

"So for me at least, I had my first lucid dream very randomly one day when I was about sixteen, I had a lot of trouble getting more of them and would only get a few every year, but once I got very serious about reading and researching and studying and discussing lucid dreaming I was able to get them very frequently, about 2+ a week on average. I've had five in the past three days. Some of these are through techniques, some are through supplements, some are through reality checking, some are WILDs and some are DILDs, some occur when I just KNOW that I'm dreaming, some are crappy, some are amazing, and that very first one happened before I knew it was possible. So, go figure."

This is from one of your post about what a natural lucid dreamer is. 2 a week on average? and then jumps to 5? Sounds more like your technique triggered your natural LDing capabilities in you which was when you were having a few a year already. A few a year is already a natural compared to normal non-naturals... A few a year is from hard work for most.You already had it but you din't know.

IMJ

Originally Posted by imj

"So for me at least, I had my first lucid dream very randomly one day when I was about sixteen, I had a lot of trouble getting more of them and would only get a few every year, but once I got very serious about reading and researching and studying and discussing lucid dreaming I was able to get them very frequently, about 2+ a week on average. I've had five in the past three days. Some of these are through techniques, some are through supplements, some are through reality checking, some are WILDs and some are DILDs, some occur when I just KNOW that I'm dreaming, some are crappy, some are amazing, and that very first one happened before I knew it was possible. So, go figure."

This is from one of your post about what a natural lucid dreamer is. 2 a week on average? and then jumps to 5? Sounds more like your technique triggered your natural LDing capabilities in you which was when you were having a few a year already. A few a year is already a natural compared to normal non-naturals... A few a year is from hard work for most.You already had it but you din't know.

IMJ

If you wanna keep discussing this, please start a new thread and I will eagerly contribute. But let's not continue to spam up someone else's thread by quoting threads from all over the forums and debating something unrelated.

Din't mean to spam...just wanted to express myself. Is that so bad? I think people are mean by nature and unfeeling so when they see something that is not to their liking or "threatening" they can't wait to prosecute or demand proof. I have contributed my share of help to this forum to the best of my knowledge without asking for proof or that the poster is lying about having so many LDs, I'm not a troll so stop this.."I am a troll" attitude.

IMJ