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      Lucid every night

      I haven't had a lucid dream for quite some time. Can't say I missed it as I've had quite a few in my life and just feeling rested in the morning is enough for me. Then two weeks ago I dreamt I was playing soccer and of course realised I was dreaming and became lucid. Nothing strange about that except a feeling I got during that dream - that I'll be able to become lucid everytime I dream.

      Since then everything triggers it. As soon as I start dreaming I become aware. Sometimes not fully, sometimes it'll fade away after what feels like a few seconds, but mostly I'll go 100% lucid 80% of the time.

      I was wondering if anyone had similar experience? Why is it so easy to become aware all of a sudden?

      Thanks.

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      You cause it by having no doubts that it's easy. Lucidity is a will-force affair, it's like telling yourself that you'll wake up at a certain hour without an alarm clock. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
      It works often if you have no doubts and strong desire.

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      Dooo...doo....doo....a Natural at work...god's selection.

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      By creating a myth that there are "naturals" you make sure that you'll never be able to repeat such things, because you're sure that you aren't one It's like throwing a fruit you'd like to eat far away.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      By creating a myth that there are "naturals" you make sure that you'll never be able to repeat such things, because you're sure that you aren't one It's like throwing a fruit you'd like to eat far away.
      Exactly, just like these posts, it's more important to just keep working hard and striving for the same experiences to help your mind click than to make up excuses for why you can't achieve the same even though you can. There isn't even a set definition of 'natural', but it seems like IamOdin (by my definition, anyway) was one and then had some sort of epiphany that upped his frequency.

      I am Odin, probably no one will be able to give you a correct answer on why this happened, because honestly no one really knows yet. Sometimes when I go to sleep and truly expect to become lucid, all the way down to my toes, I'll have a lucid dream that night, and usually I'll be successful at inducing DEILDs when I wake up from that lucid. Unfortunately for me this happens about once every 4 months I believe it's just because I truly believe it's gonna happen and am so firmly resolved that it will, that maybe it's like a MILD and my brain is just on the lookout, who knows. Makes me wonder if I can induce that same feeling and hopefully get the same results

      If you want them to go away so you can feel rested, I dunno.... maybe try telling yourself that it's a whole load of bs, and that dream thoughts are usually crazy and irrelevant? Then there are all the techniques I've read about, like WILDing or going to sleep in a dream, going somewhere relaxing, getting a dream massage, etc. to make you feel better rested in the morning if you are a natural and have tons of lucids.

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      Confidence is the key. Experience gives you more confidence. But we will ultimately fail sometimes, it is very simple there is no trick to master skills imho, hard work and introspection are the keys.

      This is my opinion in every thing you do and every skill you learn. I practice martial arts, train psionics, draw... and I've always seen hard work to pay off combined with some self research, you will get far.

      And I also believe that true confidence is not just "I WILL SEE LUCID DREAMS TONIGHT!!!!". It's more like I have strong feeling that it will happen, I know I am doing teamwork with my sub-con. That's how I describe it

      To original poster : You've somehow got yourself nice frame of mind I've noticed that I am usually in borders of lucidity and regular dream. I can somewhat decide clearly what I do in my dreams, yet I haven't realized that I am in a dream. I've even tried to fight back the urge to do RC sometimes, because I like experimenting with things and my perfect dreamskill would be ability to always induce lucidity by will, but still stay in my regular, non-lucid dreams if I wanted to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Exactly, just like these posts, it's more important to just keep working hard and striving for the same experiences to help your mind click than to make up excuses for why you can't achieve the same even though you can.
      It's more like working hard to create sincere interest.

      With lucidity the most evil thing is that you can remember only your last dreams. You can be lucid plenty of times and remember none in the morning. And then you think "This night I didn't manage to become lucid"... What a comical situation, haha.
      If you want them to go away so you can feel rested, I dunno....
      Why so serious, do you actually believe that he's in need of help? Looks like a usual boasting post in disguise to me. "100% lucid 80% of the time", that would mean that he can remember ALL of his dreams per every night.

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      Quote Originally Posted by IamOdin View Post
      that I'll be able to become lucid everytime I dream.
      Quote Originally Posted by IamOdin View Post
      Since then everything triggers it. As soon as I start dreaming I become aware.
      You maybe meant that you become lucid almost every night you dream?




      Unelias, yeah I wonder if it's humanly possible to remember more dreams!

      There is this effect that when you're half-sleepy you can start remembering dreams from yesterday that you haven't remembered before. I guess it means you can remember well only while you're half-asleep, close to that dreamy state of mind, maybe that's why we can't remember many dreams.

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      Arutad, if that's true, why wouldn't you be able to recall all your dreams of the night, when you can recall them a day later?

      And as everyone already has said, you can train dream recall

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      Quote Originally Posted by ThreeLetterSyndrom View Post
      Arutad, if that's true, why wouldn't you be able to recall all your dreams of the night, when you can recall them a day later?
      Because you wake up too quickly, I think. Somehow dream memories get transferred into normal memory with problems and tend to get lost.

      So I don't know, but maybe it's like a difference between long-term memory and short-term memory? Dreams can be stored only in a short-term one. I noticed plenty of times that even if you wake up remembering something, then unless you replay it in your memory again, it's going to be forgotten in a minute. It doesn't stay remembered on its own, you have to replay. And you have to replay a dream as it happened, not as separate moments, otherwise you'll remember only separate moments, and all that was in-between gets forgotten.

      Maybe it's not short-term memory, but another kind of memory altogether. I have good short-term memory in awaken state, but it doesn't make me great at remembering plenty of dreams in the morning or something alike.

      Training dream memory doesn't work all that well in my experience, too, basically it amounts to training yourself to wake up slowly and focus on dreams patiently replaying them

      What about you, how did you train it and what were your results?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      What about you, how did you train it and what were your results?
      I've only gotten my recall up. I've always remembered my last dream of the night very well (I don't use an alarm, you see). I'm too lazy to do more than 3 dreams per night. Getting out of a dry spell now, though

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      Unelias, yeah I wonder if it's humanly possible to remember more dreams!

      There is this effect that when you're half-sleepy you can start remembering dreams from yesterday that you haven't remembered before. I guess it means you can remember well only while you're half-asleep, close to that dreamy state of mind, maybe that's why we can't remember many dreams.
      Well memory is strange.. it is still far from understood by science. But by practice you can develope different ways to use memory, as we know through dream recall. Your brains needs keys to open lost memories. In half-dream state it is quite possible to have high chance to retrieve previous dreams, because you are in a dreamlike state.

      I would like to see if one of those savant persons with incredible memory were lucid dreamers, did they remember everything. Because in that point.. well it is quite easy to lose sense of reality if you remember you dreams perfectly.

      I have sometimes problem to distinguish whether some incindent happened in dreamworld or the waking one. Luckily, people around me have got used to it
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      Quote Originally Posted by Unelias View Post
      Well memory is strange.. it is still far from understood by science. But by practice you can develope different ways to use memory, as we know through dream recall. Your brains needs keys to open lost memories. In half-dream state it is quite possible to have high chance to retrieve previous dreams, because you are in a dreamlike state.
      Yep and it's very interesting that you can actually remember a dream moment without being in a half-dreamy state, during the day... I guess it can be explained exactly as you propose, by something triggering it as a key.

      But the question is why at one point of time something can trigger a dream memory and at another time it can't? We have plenty of dreams, and yet only a single moment gets triggered sometimes, instead of lots of moments triggered throughout the day. It almost looks like you have to be preoccupied with remembering dreams in order for such an unusual thing to happen.

      I have sometimes problem to distinguish whether some incindent happened in dreamworld or the waking one. Luckily, people around me have got used to it
      Yeah I know what you mean. Sometimes it's so funny, you remember something vaguely, decide that it must have been a dream, and then find out that it was not! Lol.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arutad View Post
      But the question is why at one point of time something can trigger a dream memory and at another time it can't? We have plenty of dreams, and yet only a single moment gets triggered sometimes, instead of lots of moments triggered throughout the day. It almost looks like you have to be preoccupied with remembering dreams in order for such an unusual thing to happen.
      Beats me. At least my mind is not logical I can sometimes suddenly remember things from 10 years or 15 years past. I usually remember nothing from that long ago. Yet some minor thing can awaken those memories.

      I could just assume our brain capacity and memory capacity is somewhat limited or at least we haven't yet found ways to fully use it. That's why we need extremely delicate signals or symbols to let us connect with those memories. Dream memories prolly aren't that important to brains as waking world memories, also considering you aren't conscious in most of your dreams. LDs are different of course, but I doubt lucid state is as conscious as waking life state for sake of memories. It's still a dream after all.
      Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Unelias View Post
      Dream memories prolly aren't that important to brains as waking world memories, also considering you aren't conscious in most of your dreams. LDs are different of course, but I doubt lucid state is as conscious as waking life state for sake of memories. It's still a dream after all.
      I think you're right about importance to our brains. Lucid dreams are easier to remember than normal ones, and we're more emotional about them, they're of more importance. That even explains why dream memories are usually only triggered when we're interested in dream recall: they kind of become important.

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      Good luck with ending that dry spell

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      Thanks. Already slipping out of it. I remembered 2 dreams last night

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