Thread: Meditation helping to attain lucidity?

So I've heard that there are meditation techniques that some people believe aid their chance of attaining lucidity. Can someone fill me in a little bit on this subject?

Hi Senta,

Well I don't know if there is a specific type of meditation that aids in lucid dreaming, but meditation in general can help by way of training your mind to focus. Hence, if you can take control of your mind and focus on becoming lucid in dreams (such as through self-hypnosis) then in that sense meditation can help.

Also, through deep meditation you should be able to bring your mind frequency down to the levels you experience during sleep, which may aid in having a lucid 'experience' or even a WILD.

Thanks, Joe. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Do you think if I repeat the mantra "I can realize I am dreaming while I am in a dream" or something along the lines of that in my head while meditating it could help? Or if I meditate while listening to one of the Subliminal Lucid audio files on this site?

The worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help, but I still enjoy meditating so... Meh =P

Sure, I actually listen to binaural beats every night as I go to bed. It doesn't really help with lucids, but for now I just want to learn to quiet the mind so maybe later I can start doing that self-hypnosis stuff (as you are suggesting with the mantra).

Actually, one technique that Stephen LaBerge used when he was starting out was to count himself to sleep as follows... "one, I am dreaming... two, I am dreaming... three, I am dreaming... etc". It sounds very much like a meditation mantra. Only difference is that you must keep some level of awareness in order to keep your count (I've tried it and couldn't believe that I'd loose count before I got to 30 in most cases!).

Meditation and LDs are linked, IMO: both involve increasing your awareness in the present moment. Meditation quiets the mind and brings you into a centered, attentive, lucid mindset while awake; this is perfect training for lucid dreams, because they rely on that awareness to trigger the question "am I dreaming?" Think of how many more LDs you would have if you were actually paying attention to what is going on instead of just coasting along in the dream without reflection. Without meditation, this absent minded coasting is exactly what most people do during most of their waking hours -and if this is what you do all day, how can you expect to behave any differently in a dream?

Originally Posted by Tranquil Toad

Meditation and LDs are linked, IMO: both involve increasing your awareness in the present moment. Meditation quiets the mind and brings you into a centered, attentive, lucid mindset while awake; this is perfect training for lucid dreams, because they rely on that awareness to trigger the question "am I dreaming?" Think of how many more LDs you would have if you were actually paying attention to what is going on instead of just coasting along in the dream without reflection. Without meditation, this absent minded coasting is exactly what most people do during most of their waking hours -and if this is what you do all day, how can you expect to behave any differently in a dream?

In a way, I agree with this. Yes.
For me, not so much meditation but a 'constant state of awareness'. BillyBob's Dream Yoga Tutorial is just that.

You could use it similarly to a MILD, repeating the phrase over and over "I will lucid dream", hammering it into your brain, but I wouldn't do that.

Meditation is different for everyone. Try it yourself, see what works and what doesn't.

yeah i was about to make a new thread but found this...

i've been meditating for 8 days now. the past 3 days, my dreams have been significantly more vivid, EVEN when i don't get enough sleep or have to take sleep medication (which i do occasionally for a reason that's unimportant).

i definitely did not know this could happen, so it's not one of those placebo deals. totally unexpected and GREAT. definitely helps build your "mindfulness muscle".

and for those looking for a GREAT meditation starter book...

http://www.amazon.com/Minute-Meditat...9628864&sr=8-1

this is what i'm currently using. UNBELIEVABLY simple and easy to read. which is good because i'm retarded.

If anyone's interested...there will be a Meditation During Lucid Dreaming class offered on the DV Academy coming up soon. One of the links in my signature is to the class thread if anyone is interested.

Thanks!