Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
At least Jeffs tutorial is open to discussion and

Ok let's try a different approach...

Which part of the body would you say "tests the mind to see if it is asleep" and then sends a "roll over signal"?
As the guy says, it's testing the brain, so without the brain where is this amazing bit of self awareness existing in the body? making it's own choices independent of the brain?
The heart? the spleen? the lungs?

I'm not saying staying still during WILD attempts is a bad idea.
I agree fully, i think that you will feel the need to move etc.
However, the idea that the body is testing the mind, is lets face it, in complete contradiction to what we know about the body, mind and sleep paralysis.

What I would say is occuring is sensory magnification.
As your sensory input diminishes from the external world, there is more scope for your mind to focus on the smaller details, the itches, the aches etc.
They become magnified. And because we are consciously aware, rather than in our normal drunken style falling asleep mind, the process is far more direct and intense.

It is not the body testing you, it is sensory input distracting you.
And to fall asleep properly, you want to dissassociate from sensory input so that your mind is free to create it's own world based on internal data.

So if this guys MAIN theory, is based on nonsense. What does that say about the rest of his work?
Sure the CONCEPT of staying still may work, but if the THEORY is jibberish, that dosn't say much about the teacher does it?
Which books was he reading exactly? the medival book of biology and witchcraft?

As for the graphs, i can understand exactly what he is doing... making them up as he goes along. They serve no purpose other than to make him look "scientific".

So yes, staying still works.
We all know that.
Making up 10 minutes of nonsense to convey a really basic idea that can be said in 10 seconds, and then trying to build a theory that contradicts biology and psychology... well sorry, but the guy reminds me of a 10 year old who has read a book on dinosaurs and now considers himself the world expert. He's got that same patronising tone, and the same "ooh look at me arn't i clever" attitude.

Great if it works for you, but considering the theory and concepts are based on something some guy has plucked out of the air,
I'd say score one placebo and suggestion.... and a horrific loss for logic and reasoning.
He never says that the body sends messages to the brain, he uses the word mind. What I take him to mean by this is the conscious mind. There are parts of the brain that only deal with bodily functions and there are parts of the brain that only relate to a person's conscious self. Most likely, these signals are coming from the medula oblongata and are going through the nervous system and back up through the sensory receptors that connect to the conscious mind.

These signals are real. Sometimes they come as a phantom itch, but sometimes they are purely just an urge to move and are not accompanied by any specific discomfort. In some people, this urge to move is over-active and then it is called Restless Leg Syndrome.

If you have had enough success with WILD's, you will start to realize that many WILD attempts will be accompanied by this urge to move, and if you manage to ignore it, the vibrations will follow directly afterwards, which then lead to sleep and your lucid dream.