Did I come close to a WILD? Please help! (:

**aimee47** · 12-05-2009 05:05 PM

Okay, so I woke up from a vivid dream around 6:30 a.m. I thought it would be the perfect time to try a WILD. I changed postitions onto my stomach.
(The most comfortable position for me). I closed my eyes, and counted my breaths. I only got up to 53, and after that I had a very short dream. (Non-lucid) I forgot what it was about, but I was able to realize that I was about to fall asleep entirely, and snapped myself back into concentrating on my WILD.
I started counting my breaths again, and after about 4 minutes, I think my body was doing mental tests on me. (Or physical, which ever one).
I suddenly felt like I was in free fall. Like I was falling off of a cliff. This went on for about 1 minute, and then it switched to me feeling like someone was grabbing me by the shoulders, and was pulling me up, down, up, down, up, down. This only went on for about 20 seconds.
Then, about 1 minute later, it felt like someone was shaking the bed. Or like I was floating in very choppy water.
All of that stopped, and I continued to count my breaths. After about 10 minutes, I felt a tingling sensation in my toes. It travelled up through my feet, to my legs, and I felt it on my butt, but it stopped at my waist. I never got the tingly feeling on my stomach, chest, neck, or head.
I laid there, still counting my breaths. I was waiting for HI, but thought that it was too eary in the process.
The tingling sensation continued, I could still feel it, but it never travelled anywhere else. I never did see any images, or hear anything.
I gave up after about 20 minutes of getting nowhere. When I moved my legs, it felt like they had fallen asleep.
So...thoughts? Was this only partial SP, and was I even coming close to HI, or anything?
Thanks for reading, also.

**Awakening** · 12-05-2009 05:30 PM

Some people just don't have HH at all... maybe you are one of them.

**Sora** · 12-05-2009 05:32 PM

You should have tried to move out of your body. Maybe you were in a dream still counting your breaths. I did that once...

**Lucidness** · 12-05-2009 05:34 PM

What is HI?

**aimee47** · 12-05-2009 05:49 PM

HI is Hypnotic Images.
Something like that. xD
I'll try moving out of my body next time. It's complicated for me.
I just don't see how people do that.
I think it's too advanced for me.
But, thanks you guys!
=D

**Lucidness** · 12-05-2009 06:45 PM

How the hell are you supposed to move out of your body? lol.

**Sora** · 12-05-2009 07:29 PM

Well, once you feel like you've entered SP and you felt some HH (Vibration, Free-fall, etc.) you can either visualize a Dream scene and jump into it, but it's kind of tricky. Or just roll over out of your body, your "dream self" will detach from your real self, it's just an image btw, if you do roll out of your body be sure to do RC cause sometimes Wild can be pretty Vivid and you'll loose lucidity pretty fast and just go back into you bed and sleep, just like a FA.

Sometimes ppl like you focus TO MUCH on their breathing (or whatever thing they do to clear their mind) and are afraid to move because it'll end the relaxation process and all their effort will be lost, but when you have such big clues as you did it's safe to try to move.

**aimee47** · 12-05-2009 08:42 PM

Yeah, "jumping out of your body" is kind of your physical self morphing into your mental self...You entering a dream pretty much.
I'm going to try again tonight.
I'm just scared, because if I do hear whispers, or sounds, I might loose concentration altogether, because I'm scared of whatever I'm hearing.

Feeling the free fall, and stuff doesn't bother me as much.
And I do concentrate on my breathing more then I should be.
Sometimes my mind wanders, I don't even know it.
It's hard!
xD

**skendry** · 12-05-2009 11:16 PM

When you say this, do you mean just thinking about rolling over. i dont get it? lol

**aimee47** · 12-06-2009 12:00 AM

When I roll over onto my stomach at first?
Or when you "jump out" of your body?

**skendry** · 12-06-2009 04:04 PM

when you jump out of you body

**Sora** · 12-06-2009 08:47 PM

Once you're in SP, if you move it's actually your Dream self which is moving. As far as I know there's 2 way to get in your dream once you've reached SP. Somes likes to visualize a dream scene and they'll eventually just spawn there by any way. Or you can just "Roll over" your dream body, it's a hard thing to do since you'll be paralysed, but it's only your real body which is paralysed. Once you've managed to move you have successfully entered your Dream Self and you can do whatever you want from there.

I'm repeating myself a little bit but I hope it's clearer xD

The point is, once you've went trough the SP, the body you might still be feeling is your Dream self and not your real body. Everything after SP is In your mind. Oh and Btw, if you wake up during the process. DO RCs!! Cause it's probably a False Awekening, don't let it trick you.

**aimee47** · 12-07-2009 02:06 AM

That makes sense, oddly.
xD

And I do RC's constantly, but they always fail in dreams.
It's frustrating. >:[

**Sora** · 12-07-2009 05:00 AM

Yeah, it's kind of hard to visualize though. I'm not even sure of what I told you uhoh.

What RC do you do? The nose pinch RC is the best imo, never fails me.

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