Update on Tibetan Dream yoga.

**Jackalhead** · 04-16-2009 04:27 AM

Okay, so a few months ago I posted on here that I would be starting lucid dreaming with tibetan dream yoga and keep you all informed on my progress with it.

Well, I have good news. After a while it became a natural part of my mind to remember that life was a dream and at this point I was having on average three lucid dreams naturally a week! (I haven't updated my counter in my signature)

Anyways, I kept up the practice for about a month then got distracted with fitness, employment and my band. But I just wanted to let you all know that it works AMAZINGLY well. I am starting up again tonight. I just can't let life distract me from it.

**Baphometslayer** · 04-16-2009 04:56 AM

I wanted to find a book about this topic but there are lots of them out there.

Would you mind producing the exact name of the book or an Amazon link please? I am very interested in reading this book!

**cygnus** · 04-16-2009 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by Baphometslayer

I wanted to find a book about this topic but there are lots of them out there.

Would you mind producing the exact name of the book or an Amazon link please? I am very interested in reading this book!

The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche is pretty much the authority for me on the subject. it's a very good book and provides a good explanation of the Tibetan outlook on dreams in relation to karma, the uses of lucidity etc. they've been doing this stuff for millennia and the western world just looks retarded in comparison.

**Baphometslayer** · 04-16-2009 05:04 AM

I agree about the Western views on the subject. And thanks for the title. Added to my booklist!

**wet_roof113** · 04-16-2009 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by cygnus

The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche is pretty much the authority for me on the subject. it's a very good book and provides a good explanation of the Tibetan outlook on dreams in relation to karma, the uses of lucidity etc. they've been doing this stuff for millennia and the western world just looks retarded in comparison.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13796178/T...ngyal-Rinpoche

thats the link for anyone who wishes to read it online. thats what im currently doing

**yuriythebest** · 04-17-2009 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by wet_roof113

http://www.scribd.com/doc/13796178/T...ngyal-Rinpoche

thats the link for anyone who wishes to read it online. thats what im currently doing

currently reading through that book, halfway through- so far a lot of "introductory" information but nothing excessively practical just yet, still a good read. Let's see how the second half of the book will fair.

**wet_roof113** · 04-17-2009 04:06 PM

I've only got about 13 pages through. Its not catching my attention as anything special at least yet. He has a weird view of dreaming from what I've read so far.....

havnt had anytime lately thought, and not-on-topic, my back is killing me.

Will it get better?

**cygnus** · 04-16-2009 04:57 AM

hey that's great! tibetan dream yoga is the core of my dreaming practice - i've been studying tibetan buddhism for a few years so it was only natural that i began applying it specifically to LDs.

i'm still training myself to wake up at three times during the early morning and moving between four points of focus/chakras. the teachings say, for example, to merge with the white tiglé in your third eye chakra, but i've had trouble with this. i just can't really stay with the image and it's normally too weak to stay with me as i fall asleep... can you elaborate a bit on what you do - any advice on the specifics of the practice?

**Jackalhead** · 04-16-2009 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by cygnus

... can you elaborate a bit on what you do - any advice on the specifics of the practice?

I don't even purposely wake myself up in the mornings. I just naturally wake up about 2 hours from the time my alarm clock is set to go off, then I lay completely still and don't move a MUSCLE. I focus on my third eye and create the thoughts and feelings I have while lucid in a dream and the next thing I know I am in the dream fully conscious.

That is my night time practice. My day time practice: I create a map of the world around me and remain conscious of where I am at all times, noticing when things change and such. At the same time, I keep the presence of mind that all of my surroundings are of the essence of dreams. I realize that real life is just a continuous dream and I interact with my surroundings in a manner that I would if I was lucid dreaming - confidently, curiously and analytically.

**Baphometslayer** · 04-16-2009 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by Jackalhead

I don't even purposely wake myself up in the mornings. I just naturally wake up about 2 hours from the time my alarm clock is set to go off, then I lay completely still and don't move a MUSCLE. I focus on my third eye and create the thoughts and feelings I have while lucid in a dream and the next thing I know I am in the dream fully conscious.

When you wake up, you don't even stay awake for an hour? Is this part of the Tibetan method?

**Jackalhead** · 04-16-2009 05:57 AM

No, I don't do WBTB. If you don't move a muscle when you wake up, you can alert your mind enough to stay awake while you keep your body on the verge of sleep so it's an instant WILD or MILD with no effort.

**Licity** · 04-16-2009 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jackalhead

No, I don't do WBTB. If you don't move a muscle when you wake up, you can alert your mind enough to stay awake while you keep your body on the verge of sleep so it's an instant WILD or MILD with no effort.

There's tutorials about this on the site, search DEILD.

**cygnus** · 04-16-2009 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Jackalhead

My day time practice: I create a map of the world around me and remain conscious of where I am at all times, noticing when things change and such. At the same time, I keep the presence of mind that all of my surroundings are of the essence of dreams.

i like this. i think i'll start maintaining a map of the world around me like you described - this is the kind of thing i'd like to do in my dreams, so i think i should do it during the day as well.

**Robot_Butler** · 04-16-2009 06:05 PM

I'm always on and off with Dream Yoga. When I am actively practicing, I also get several lucid dreams a week. It does take a small amount of attention during the day, which sometimes makes it inconvenient. If I have to keep a lot of other stuff on my mind (like learning a lot of new information, or heavy problem solving), I can't really do it.

And I agree that Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche's book is the best introduction out there.

**Jackalhead** · 04-16-2009 10:50 PM

It does take a lot of focus to remind yourself that you really are dreaming, but it pays off when you go to bed. Anyways, I am just way too busy with stuff that it's hard to just zone out and think like that. Either I am driving in insane traffic, taking notes rapidly in class, lifting weights or sprinting (takes mind over matter a lot) or playing a band practice or an actual performance.

Reminding myself to gain awareness is easy, but lately it has been difficult to maintain this awareness when I am always doing activities that require such devotion of attention.

**sleepyzac** · 03-06-2010 08:48 PM

hello,
question: how long did it take to work? like from the day you started thinking of life as a dream all day how many days/weeks/months until you started to lucid?

**LouieO** · 03-08-2010 01:29 AM

WOW. I have to say that's pretty amazing... I'm reading the book on Scribd, but is that really legal? Anyone know? It seems kind of fishy to me... just my view.