I have a very interesting challenge to all of you who still think that an OBE is real. Have someone put an object in a box without you having seen the object. Make it something very specific without the box being closed so that all you have to do is look into the box when you are experiencing an OBE. If you consistantly can say for a fact what the object is then you are definately experiencing more than an LD. I'm very curious what the results would be, because I am the biggest unbeliever of OBE's. However I am willing to change my mind with honest hard cold facts coming from an experiment.