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    View Poll Results: Do you believe shared dreaming is real?

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    • Yes, because I have experienced it.

      58 25.55%
    • Yes, because of others' experience.

      29 12.78%
    • Maybe, but I have to experience it for myself.

      88 38.77%
    • Maybe, but it has to be scientifically proven.

      27 11.89%
    • No, it's impossible.

      25 11.01%
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      Quote Originally Posted by shadowofwind View Post
      If you see a novice playing with the clip out, not understanding that there's still a shell in the chamber....
      I think a better analogy here would be playing with a wild animal like a lion. Its not something you can put on a shelf and decide not to use, or impassionately decide what you're going to use it for. If you've put yourself in close enough proximity to do anything with it, then it will use you. And even directly knowing anything about it requires doing something with it. First time you get horny, for instance, you're a dream rapist. Whether you want to control that or not, you can't, unless your desires are already so well controlled that they don't even find expression in non-lucid, non-remembered dreams.

      We've agreed that the way to learn whether shared dreaming is real is not by endless intellectual argument, but to actually explore it. So its not a theoretical problem for later, it already here.

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      Thanks guys. Maybe it looks like we've just been talking at each other, and I suppose there's always an element of vain farce in such discussions. But I think I've learned a few things of importance to myself. Implications of things I already knew, but hadn't made the connections.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mylynes View Post
      I would agree with you that mass induced nightmares, especially ones that actually leave a major impact on its victims, would normally be impossible. The only way I see such things as being possible is through conscious manipulation of perceived flow of time. This would be essential both to attaining such abilities in the first place, and making the nightmares much more memorable. A regular mass induced nightmare could merely be shrugged off by most people. But with TD taken to the extremes, if all of those nightmares were to fill a single rem period with a near-eternity, then peoples minds could be completely warped, huge chunks of memory completely lost, could be driven utterly insane overnight. So instead of mass numbers of ppl simply waking up from a bad dream, they are warped, changed, and come back dangerously psychotic. The chaos that could follow after such an event would be much more intense than just having a bunch of people wake up from a bad dream.

      People could go to a literal hell for eons, by the time they are released they could even potentially believe that they are demons themselves returning to earth on a mission to carry out the apocalypse or something.

      Just something to think about. Row row row your boat.
      That's a cool idea for a novel.
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