Thread: Quantum Physics and the Nature of Dreamscaping

THATS OVER 94,000,000,000 MILES!!! Is anti-matter even capable of that?

Manifold space. It is my understanding that a fusion pulse engine works by detonating VERY small fusion bombs behind the ship and using the explosion to impart momentum. Is that what the book says Seri?


I'm currently reading one by Poul Anderson. It is based on the premise that when the universe was created that the quantum state did not return to 0.
They built starships that could tap into this potential to travel 99.9% C.

Interesting read.

How about Robert Forward? Ever read any of his stuff. Hard science, not space opera stuff, but technology that could be developed within the next 100 years.

I didn't ready everones response so I apologize if anyone wrote stuff like this.

I believe That in order to communicate telepathicly both people must meet these requirments:

Ability to lucid dream.
Posess a bond between each other, maternal, paternal , twins, love, etc
Both parties must be willing.
And the heart must long for the other.

Meaning, If two people which to dreamscape distance does matter in this.
If two people have no reason to dreampscape. How much the heart longs for the other depend on how strong it signals will be. If it's weak it wont go far, but it is strong it'll go on for great distances.

Tahcyons...no mass at the speed of light.

hehe tao te is the way we live in a world where reality
is defined by nonexistence...

beautiful really



wow

Exactly seeker.
They used Helium3 and deuterium pellets, the fusion pulse started by lazer.

Yep its a big pusher plate with a habitation mounted to it on shock absorbers, the fusion reaction causes all kinds of energy emmision, not really an explosion perse, you couldent launch the ship on earth itself, it dosent have that kind of power, it needs to be in space already. Its like an ION drive in a way but with a much higher energy output. The ship could probably reach about 2% the speed of light.

Antimater still has mass so it would be bound by einsteins theory

Yikes! How are they handling the gamma ray output? Takes a pretty thick piece of lead to absorb that!

yuppers, Water tanks are a good source of shielding, also could use some kind of magnetic containment to keep the hab module out of harms way.

So now lets get into something a little more exotic =)

Quantum entanglement teleportation of matter...

It would require a vast data storage device... and two very large sources of entangled matter.

There are things most dont think of though... The original copy is destroyed... would we as a whole survive that? would our soul "follow" us?" Or is consiousness itself the product of our biomechanical brain, would there be degredation as there is with any copy? how badlly would that effect our brains being that they are working on a quantum level and that would see the most copy degredation.

So now you have the original destroyed... you still need to transmit the data... you would still be bound by light speed... but during the transition time.. you well.. would be legaly dead, as you are only existing in the form of a stream of entanglement data...

Also.. the reciver would have to be physically hauled to its location... thats gona take some time..

But if you traversed a distance of 100 light years... you would be in transmission for a hundred years, but to you it would be an instant ...(grr damned dejavu) anyways... would you want to step into an uncertain future? knowing that when you finaly came back home it would be 200 years into the future?

I duno I am rambling... I suppose I shoudl do some werk

Interesting, that was what Dr. McCoy always complained about when they used the transporter.

well if we're going into scientific matters, you have to try and prove everything through science's viewpoint...so saying things like "would our soul "follow" us?" is not something you can say, as science sees us (humans) as merely the sum of our parts, thus you'd have to go with there being degredation if someone were to be transported like that, as science sees human conciousness as merely chemicals bubbling around in our brains...the whole point of this, in my opinion, what you seek, to say, is how to find a scientific link between science, and our souls...if you could find that, you can easily prove dreamscaping etc.

Science would state that since electromagnetism exists when we are alive - these electromagnetic bits contain our senses and conscious. When we die our brain loses that magnetic ability and so therefore electric matter can float around - this is an idea rapidly rising in the scientific community.

So is the idea that the spirit is aprt of the quantum loop that takes place in our brains. Its already proven that Perception can change quantummechanical outcomes, So the spirit changes these outcomes in the neurons in the brain, the brain works as an amplifyer, I wrote a whoel big detailed thing on this I will have to find it though =D

we need everything to link in if science and religion link in its a definte in my opinion. Ive always said that science is what relgion is its just another way of explaining it. Thats why I think, and many scientists do that life after death of the physical body is possible and cannot be refuted. Only be sceptics but then they are out there to deny everything

well you could also be frozen and then be brought back to life, in the distant future. It would be like 'time travel' too.

the virus of our language
is definition
all that is defined
is defined by its opposition

religion, science, rhetoric,

these r all the same things. those who say they are different
are egotistical and ignorant

to the fact that they are infinitely interconnected to enerything

call it god
call it quatumphysics
call it the everything and nothing

are only sin is that everything here is perpetuated by its opposite

good is evil
no is yes
god is nothing (too)

once we escape this, our true spiritual quest begins

quatumspirit
sciencegod
all things are truth
only when they are related to others

entaglements
oppositions
tao te

Hehe I say it all the time, God's a Scientist

another thing... the uncertainy principle is going to be disproven soon...

Now that we know entanglements do happen, once we get containment and such down good, we can find more than one property of a particle at any given time...
Youve got two particles... entangled, the each do what the other does right? wellllll

Measure spin on one particle and velocity on the other... at the same time.

You could infer then what the original state was from the combined reading of both particles. Because they are essentially the same particle!!!

most universal scientists on quantem physics, mechanics and super space are sorta hypocrites...........they believe what they say in the lab...and believe other stuff in every day life...........theory is the key word so its not really something to base laws on in 'pairing'.........maybe there doesnt have to be contact

i dunno just some random thoughts

I believe everyone here has awsome input on this but I'll return to Seeker's original post

It has been theorized that the human body is just a container for the spirit that the spirit used to access the physical planes, sort of like a radio controlled car.[/b]

You know how Native American Indians and other peoples believe that we are directly tuned into the Earth. Well a few scientists are starting to come around to thinking that the Human Brain's Electromagnetic field is directly corrolated to human conscousness.

The earth has an EMF, other planets, the milky way even has one.
Considering this, isn't it possible that we are for the first time as a specie - seeing and experiencing the evolutionary process for what it is- and some are consciously aware of what's happening?

http://unisci.com/stories/20022/0516026.htm

http://web2.iadfw.net/dsh440/mind.htm

A simplified way of putting it, but it seems to make sense.




And it is funny isnt it how one day eggs are good for you, then the next day they're bad for you. Meat is good, then it's bad, now it's PC all over again.

It just goes to show..... they know about as much as we do.

or is that vice versa?


Abstract Dreamer

i couldnt have said it better

Abstrat dreamer, Check out the "The 100th monkey"

Heres the basics of it.

We are all connected, I have beleived this for quite some time, and second attention brought to light an experiment called the 100th monkey,

The Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata, had been observed in the wild for a period of over 30years. In 1952, on the island of Koshima, scientists were providing monkeys with sweet potatoes dropped in the sand. The monkey liked the taste of the raw sweet potatoes, but they found the dirt unpleasant. An 18-month-old female named Imo found she could solve the problem by washing the potatoes in a nearby stream. She taught this trick to her mother. Her playmates also learned this new wayand they taught their mothers too.

This cultural innovation was gradually picked up by various monkeys before the eyes of the scientists. Between 1952 and 1958 all the young monkeys learned to wash the sandy sweet potatoes to make them more palatable. Only the adults who imitated their children learned this social improvement. Other adults kept eating the dirty sweet potatoes.

Then something startling took place. In the autumn of 1958, a certain number of Koshimam onkeys were washing sweet potatoes -- the exact number is not known. Let us suppose that when the sun rose one morning there were 99 monkeys on Koshima Island who had learned to wash their sweet potatoes. Let's further suppose that later that morning, the hundredth monkey learned to wash potatoes.

THEN IT HAPPENED! By that evening almost everyone in the tribe was washing sweet potatoes before eating them. The added energy of this hundredth monkey somehow created an ideological breakthrough!

But notice: A most surprising thing observed by these scientists was that the habit of washing sweet potatoes then jumped over the sea...Colonies of monkeys on other islands and the mainland troop of monkeys at Takasakiyama began washing their sweet potatoes. Thus, when a certain critical number achieves an awareness, this new awareness may be communicated from mind to mind.

Although the exact number may vary, this Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon means that when only a limited number of people know of a new way, it may remain the conscious property of these people.

But there is a point at which if only one more person tunes-in to a new awareness, a field is strengthened so that this awareness is picked up by almost everyone!

This is an excerpt from the book by Ken Keyes, jr. "The Hundredth Monkey".

With this in mind the thought of two peoples consiousness bumping into each other in the dream world does not seem so far fetched.

Look into morphogenic fields as well as The 100th monkey


Life is energy =)

We are all star dust, and a part of this universe, so in our quest to understand ourselves, and the universe around us, are we not the universe itself trying to understand itself?

hell yeh heaps interestin.........we are all conecteted and made of the same stuff...nothing is impossible.....maybe me turning my computer into a loaf of bread is but only becasue i dont posses the knowledge to.....but in the future ill travel bak to this moment and do just that

Its like making toast!

"You put bread in the toaster and then Bread pops out!"

"Wheres the bread go? "

Not exact but its pretty close to the conversation that two of my favorite philosophers had, Calvin and Hobbes.


To a cave man, thats sure as hell magic =D

Originally posted by Serinanth
Its like making toast!

\"You put bread in the toaster and then Bread pops out!\"

\"Wheres the bread go? \"

Not exact but its pretty close to the conversation that two of my favorite philosophers had, Calvin and Hobbes.


To a cave man, thats sure as hell magic =D

rofl..lmao
i can just imagine the cavemans eyes...almost like the first time they see fire............
i like crocadile dundee's way of making toast...with an oxy torch