OBE and voices

[Nickolai]

Dear fellow explorers I have trained lucid dreaming fro about 1 year on and off. Sometimes I practice and other times i do not practice at all. However I started practising again. And yeah something really spooky or strange happened. It is morning around 8 and I am waking up. I am snoozing as always and start to think of doing an OBE. I have to mention I have only had 1 very short OBE and 3 near OBEs (the tinkling sensation phase). This morning I experience two OBEs. The first one starts with the tinkling sensation and I ask "how many are you" and I intuitively get the number 10 or 11. Why i asked how many are you I really do not know. After I posed the question I get the numberer 10 or 11 and feel the presence of a group of people or entities waiting and the thought of paper and pen springs to my mind. It was like one of them was writing. It is important to note that I do not see anything it is all feelings and intuition that I sense. As I get a little scared or overwhelmed because of the experience I wake up and feel the sleep paralysis decreasing in my body. Strangely enough I think that my legs are hanging over the edge of the bed side only to find out that they are not they are actually in the bed. Not out over the bed side as I were feeling. Kind of an post out of body feeling. After waking up I am evaluating my experience and found out that I felt I was actually communicating with some one on "the other side". A group that was waiting for me and they were working with something and were quit intellectual and had important knowledge/information. What it was i do not know. I get pretty hooked and want to try again so I do. The second experience also starts with the tinkling sensation and I kind of drift away from my body. I feel that I am letting go of my body. This time the "OBE" provides me with information in audio and not feelings and intuition. It is much more direct and external that before. What I experience during the altered state is a voice speaking to me. It is in the same pace or rhythm as when a priest is saying his prayers. The voice is not in any language I have ever heard. But if I had to compare it with something it would be arabic or Greek of some-kind. I do not know the arabic or Greek language so I find it strange and cant understand it at all. What is more strange to me is that the voice only appears in my right ear. I really take notice of it and try to tune in to it. He still talks to me in my right ear and as I become fully aware of the experience I wake up and the voice slowly stops as I become awake. To be honest I really do not know what I am supposed to do with this experience. At one point I am exited but also a bit scared of the unknown. But deep down I just want to know a bit more about what the group i felt the presence from and the man who was talking to me in a unknown language. What are your thoughts when you hear of my experience?

[TracyN]

This happens to me quite frequently when I'm traveling through what I call the "void space". After I start to feel the tingling sensations and know that I'm going into sleep paralysis I feel the need to jump out of my body and once I jump out of my body I go into a lucid dream. Many times as I am traveling through this void I hear strange voices both male and female, music, and somtimes even sinister, demonic sounding voices. It's very strange but fascinating and I find that many of my "trips" through the "void" are more interesting than the actual lucid dream.

[nina]

Well you could look at this two ways. First is the more logical explanation...that you are experiencing hypnagogic hallucinations, which is typical during that trancelike state in between sleep and wake. These may come in the form of visual hallucinations, physical sensations, thoughts, and very commonly auditory hallucinations. So it's possible that you were just experiencing completely normal auditory hallucinations as you transitioned into a dreamlike state. The other is the more "supernatural" explanation, if you believe such things...then you may think that you were indeed communicating with other spirits. There have been a few documented cases of people who enter that trancelike state in order to communicate and receive messages from somewhere else, perhaps a spirit, or the collective conscious, or who knows where. The most famous documented case is the renowned psychic Edgar Cayce, known as the "sleeping psychic" because all of his many thousands of predictions were made while he was in that trance state. Many channelers will attempt to go to that same state to receive information from specific entities, and the pen and paper may have hinted at automatic writing. If you want to explore it a bit more, perhaps you could give automatic writing a shot? If what you experienced was anything "real" then it sounds like there are several entities or spirits that are anxious to speak with you. You might want to explore self hypnosis, and possibly have a recorder to record anything you might say in your sleep. People like Cayce never had any memory of the things they said while in a trance. So you could be speaking in your sleep and never know it unless you sleep with someone else.

[Nickolai]

Tank you very much for your twofold answer. You have got a thanks up from me :-) I really do not know what it was but I definitely have to try out the self hypnosis you explained. I do believe that we are able to tap into "the other world" aka a spirit world. I have never had auditory hallucinations as I explained above. I have to stress that it really felt as a very external experience. But is auditory hallucinations "normally" a profound external experience? Once again thank you for your answer :-)

[nina]

I have never had auditory hallucinations as I explained above. I have to stress that it really felt as a very external experience. But is auditory hallucinations "normally" a profound external experience? Once again thank you for your answer :-) You're welcome. I have had many different types of auditory hallucinations. One time I heard many thousands of voices speaking in all different languages. They were all speaking at the same time, but I could sort of "zoom in" on one voice or conversation and listen in, and then "zoom" to the next conversation. So that even though they were all speaking at once, I could focus on just one and listen to what was being said. Although I couldn't understand much of it, because they were speaking every language imaginable. Another time I heard music playing very loudly. It was so loud and so real that I actually woke myself up to turn off the radio. But after waking I realized that the radio wasn't even on, and that the music was entirely in my own head. There have been times when I have heard people come into my room, climb into bed with me, and whisper something in my ear. It felt SO real. But when I would wake, of course, I would be completely alone. Now I try not to be fooled by auditory hallucinations and I keep telling myself that it isn't real, so that I can transition into a lucid dream instead of being fooled into waking up.

[tomasssgr]

is there any possible way to write here what they told you?im from greece,maybe i can help you!

[Nickolai]

is there any possible way to write here what they told you?im from greece,maybe i can help you! Would love to know what it was they said. But cannot write it as i do not know what they said. It seemed like a kind of prayer. I am unfortunately unable to reconstruct the information. Have you tomasssgr experienced any similar?