Thread: Am I Making OBE Progress? (NEED ANSWERS FAST!)

I think outer-body in the sense is more of a 4-dimensional perspective of the 3-d matrix.

Meaning, you won't literally be going out of ur body as a ghost and traveling to certain things. You will however be able to see the energy of the real world matrix from a vantage point that is ur own personal dream perspective. Ur interpretation system. That is ur own universe and ur out of body experience. In my opinion every dream has a out of body potential.

Howevverrrrrr,,,, I have gotten to the point where I could see the city at one time while listening Robert Monroe sounds. So i'm not sure if your not capable of getting to see the city but this I believe is only a low level point of entry.

Isn't lucid dreaming enough for u to have sex with ur mind girl imaginations and steal random bank vaults ?

xD everyone'd like to experience it specially in OBE, i think its not good i mean it might be good idk but if its the way we think that u are like a ghost in reality then
what the heck? dont get caught xD

Originally Posted by Karlitaki

Isn't lucid dreaming enough for u to have sex with ur mind girl imaginations and steal random bank vaults ?

xD everyone'd like to experience it specially in OBE, i think its not good i mean it might be good idk but if its the way we think that u are like a ghost in reality then
what the heck? dont get caught xD

Remember Jumper? Well I think if out of body experiences are real, then they could be used to actually steal merchandise from out of bank vaults in real life. By the way, a person won't make any financial gains by stealing money in lucid dreams.

Originally Posted by Skeptical

Remember Jumper? Well I think if out of body experiences are real, then they could be used to actually steal merchandise from out of bank vaults in real life. By the way, a person won't make any financial gains by stealing money in lucid dreams.

You've expressed a misunderstanding of OBEs. They are nonphysical experiences. Consciousness operates beyond the physical dimension during these projections. There is no interaction with the physical world during OBEs. Thus your argument is illogical.

Originally Posted by VinceField

You've expressed a misunderstanding of OBEs. They are nonphysical experiences. Consciousness operates beyond the physical dimension during these projections. There is no interaction with the physical world during OBEs. Thus your argument is illogical.

So you're saying its not real? its just a copy of the physical world but in another dimension? if so then i mean if u get on OBE and u open ur door and go out and see lets say Ice Cream Truck selling and u decide to get back to ur body and check if the truck is there, is that poss or what do u mean

Originally Posted by Karlitaki

So you're saying its not real? its just a copy of the physical world but in another dimension? if so then i mean if u get on OBE and u open ur door and go out and see lets say Ice Cream Truck selling and u decide to get back to ur body and check if the truck is there, is that poss or what do u mean

There is a difference between "it's not real" and "it's not physical reality that is experienced during OBEs."

It seems that there is a dimension of reality just beyond the physical world that is essentially an energetic copy of the physical dimension, which is what is experienced during "real-time zone" projections. The idea is that everything in the physical world has an energetic essence, a nonphysical aspect which exists at a higher rate of frequency than the physical world, and it is this nonphysical essence which is experienced during OBEs.

So to answer your question about the ice cream truck, yes, it is possible, but it doesn't mean that it is the actual physical dimension or the actual physical ice cream truck that is being perceived during the projection.

Originally Posted by VinceField

So to answer your question about the ice cream truck, yes, it is possible, but it doesn't mean that it is the actual physical dimension or the actual physical ice cream truck that is being perceived during the projection.

If you OBE, you think the ice cream truck is real. But you don't get any ice cream. So what's the point? Just lucid dream. This isn't about doing crimes in waking reality.

Originally Posted by Verre

If you OBE, you think the ice cream truck is real. But you don't get any ice cream. So what's the point? Just lucid dream. This isn't about doing crimes in waking reality.

Right but since you got that experience why not do something without crimes? so if thats real i dont know its kind of weird then, i mean i believe in it knid of like there is that kind of energy when we are on OBE but can u move objects and wake up and its moved? cus i read on other forum from a guy who did like 20 year OBE and other dreamin experiences and he experimented by putting a pencil somewhere where if u just touch it slightly it will fall down, and it worked... so in kind of sense yes?

Originally Posted by Verre

If you OBE, you think the ice cream truck is real. But you don't get any ice cream. So what's the point? Just lucid dream. This isn't about doing crimes in waking reality.

For me, the point of OBE is the same as the point of LD. To explore aspects of my self and reality that are veiled by the physical world and my physical senses, and to acquire insights from these experiences which may serve to benefit myself and others.

I really hope you pull it off

For the sake of those women I hope it's not possible. What did they do to deserve you groping them and whatever else you intend to do?

Originally Posted by Daniele

For the sake of those women I hope it's not possible. What did they do to deserve you groping them and whatever else you intend to do?

That comes within your mind, it's not a must to do it is ur dirty mind that desires to do it.. but whoever is intelligent he knows whats right to do.