Dealing with Evil Spirits

[Leo Volont]

Evil Spirits A number of reported Dreams, as well as some PM’s addressed to myself, have shown some concern about what we would call “Evil Spirits”. The Materialistic View for dealing with such Entities, considering that Materialist’s foundational premise is that dreams are ultimately meaningless structures from a random imagination, is to imagine these Evil Characters gone, or destroyed. But, more often than not, we hear of surprise that the Evil Entities show greater resilience then expected and will not suffer to be simply imagined away. In an inherently Spiritual Universe, materialistic doctrine has a great deal of difficulty proving itself out when confronted by a Subjectively Solid Spiritual Realm, which is what we have in our Dreams. Anyway, it would seem that Evil Entities within one’s dreams must actually be dealt with as subjectively ‘real’ contingencies. Now, it may be objected that it is silly to call anything from our dreams ‘Real’, but, after all, if they persist and do not go away, then they share one of the primary attributes of Reality, and that is the quality of Continuity. Real or not, if it won’t go away, then it must be dealt with. Now, here is my advice. One should resort to Spiritual Protections. And, of Spiritual Protections, I recommend as the best those protections of the Catholic Church. Indeed, many spiritualists have lately been leaning toward the Primitive Shamanistic Traditions – Tibetan Tantra, Daoism, Wicca, Voodoo, and such. That is all well and good. But they seem to be purposely avoiding what could well be the more effective Choice. It should be remembered that Catholicism wrestled with the Spiritual Sciences for over a thousand years, and did so with the advantages of a large and literate Organization, where the work of one Generation was never lost through illiterate negligence but would inevitably be passed down and around through the medium of a universal language. There had been Hundreds of Brotherhoods and Sisterhoods combining the Spiritual Talents of hundreds of thousands of Spiritually Adventurous Monks and Nuns, who coordinated their progress though correspondences which covered first one Continent and then two within a Civilization that lauded their efforts. Generations of such focused efforts would be bound to amount to something, would it not? Indeed, up until the 14th Century, the Saints of Catholicism seemed to have grown in Spiritual Strength and potency (Saint Vincent Ferrer would have made Christ Himself seem like a spiritual novice). Of course, the progress was stopped with the destruction of Catholic Civilization. The Spiritual Tools of Catholicism were largely discredited in the View of an ever more Materialistic and Satanic Culture. The Tools were largely put aside, but that does not mean that they could not still work as intended. So, if you are considering some form of Primitivism, or are already conceding some validity in Voodoo or Witchcraft or any such thing, then you owe it to yourself to skip over the rudiments and get to the Head of the Class. That would be the Protections understood within Catholic Tradition. Concretely, three Protections can be enumerated immediately. The Sign of the Cross will ward off Evil Spirits. Evoking The Goddess The Virgin Mary is an effective Protection, or calling upon the Avenging Angel Michael. One can protect one’s house by installing Crucifixes on walls and doors, and by keeping Icons and Images of these Protecting Entities. Also, certain Amulets can be worn which have been allowed to have Protective Potency by the Apparitions of this Primary Goddess the Blessed Virgin – the Rosary, the Brown Scapular, the Crucifix and then there is the Medal of Saint Benedict. It is all very strong Voodoo. It is a shame that people allow the universal prejudice against all things Catholic to influence them into rejecting all of the positive contributions made by Catholicism in regards to the Things of the Spirit and the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

[MarthaM]

OK, I'll join in on this one. If I understand correctly, my dreams are a means of communication that my subconcious utilizes. And entities in my dream are there for a reason (logical or otherwise.) I have met Evil Spirits and have always found a way to accept their presence. Do I understand correctly that they have a message or lesson just as other more friendly Dream Guides? Again, I can't help but wonder if some of the evil encountered by forum members may be due to age related inexperience.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by MarthaM OK, I'll join in on this one. If I understand correctly, my dreams are a means of communication that my subconcious utilizes. *And entities in my dream are there for a reason (logical or otherwise.) *I have met Evil Spirits and have always found a way to accept their presence. * Do I understand correctly that they have a message or lesson just as other more friendly Dream Guides? Again, I can't help but wonder if some of the evil encountered by forum members may be due to age related inexperience. Okay, Martha, it seems that you are going into your Dreaming with some very stark Materialist assumptions, the primary assumption being that Dreaming is entirely an internal process uninfluenced by any semblance of a Collective Mind or a Higher Mind. Some very renown people have set forth the premise of Higher Influences, most notibly Carl Jung, the famous Psychologist. Besides, after we verify our first shared dream, we KNOW that Dreaming is no longer to be confined within our own personal heads, and that Dreaming extends outward. If such is the case, then, we can regard some dream influences as being of external origin. In many cases this applies to Evil Spirits and Demons. Now, it may simply be so much quibbling about whether the Demons are in us, or merely the vulnerability to Demons is within us, which is enough to summon them forth. Now, regarding 'getting along with Evil Spirits'... yes, I have no doubt at all that people can either arrange Faustian Deals with Demons or be so evil themselves that they hardly perceive that they may be in 'bad company'. In doing much study on the matter, it can fairly be concluded that it is only the Very Best of people who have trouble with Demons. In Catholic Traditions one of the signs of Sainthood would be the occassional Demonic Attack. It is as though Satan targets only the those Elect who have the Favor of God, since all the rest are fairly damned anyway and not worth any extra effort since they had already been won without a fight. So it would not surprise me at all if people wonder what this essay is referring to... that THEY never had any problems with Evil. Only an Extraordinary Goodness can make one a Target. This is one of the Blessings and Curses within Spirituality. I always congratulate people when their Dreams indicate that they have come under some special Spiritual Patronage -- when some High Soul has taken it upon their Responsibility to Sponsor a Dreamer on his or her Spiritual Way. That is the Blessing. But the Curse is that such a Dreamer has been put into the Field of Contention between Good and Evil. Once recruited by The Good, Evil is certainly tempted to come forward and contest the acquisition. I myself was once warned by the Prophet Elijah himself, after having spent a good number of years in my Spirituality, that I had succeeded well enough that now "The Principalities of the Sky vie for my Soul", and I looked up to see a firmament crowded with flying dragons locked and swirling in aerial combat. It taught me that one must discern the influences come in contact with us. It is not so much to 'get along' with every influence, as surrender and complacency with Evil is simply to extend Evil's grasp within ourselves. In accepting Spiritual Sponsorship we are asked to commit ourselves to God and Civilization. Yes, if we are firm in our orientation then we can safely mix with Evil, but only for the purpose of subverting its hold, as the Behavior of a Civilized Person is the best propaganda in a Barbarian World for Civilizing the savage and unreformed natural soul.

[kimpossible]

Personally, I just grab 'em by the nape of the neck with my teeth (sometimes they taste kinda icky) and shake 'em until they're dead... Again...

[Ex Nine]

Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div> ... considering that Materialist’s foundational premise is that dreams are ultimately meaningless structures from a random imagination...[/b] A materialist's foundational premise is that dreams are ultimately made of matter and energy. This is to say that they are made of the same thing(s) as the physical world. There are no instrinsic premises for meaning, randomness, or even imagination for a materialist. <!--QuoteBegin-Leo Volont ...very stark Materialist assumptions, the primary assumption being that Dreaming is entirely an internal process uninfluenced by any semblance of a Collective Mind or a Higher Mind. This assumption of isolation is entirely false. It is absolutely necessary for the mind be in the same collective system as other minds in order to satisfy materialism. On the contrary, Leo, it is spiritualism that seems to separate us, by dividing our being into parts. Acquinas said we are composed of two parts, \"primary matter,\" (the body) and \"substantial form\" (the soul). It is the soul that is not made of matter and is unique for each person. No two humans or angels can have the same substantial form. There we are, then. Islands unto ourselves. Besides, after we verify our first shared dream, we KNOW that Dreaming is no longer to be confined within our own personal heads, and that Dreaming extends outward.[/b] Materialism, as a philosophy distinct from whatever scientific theories are currently in vogue, simply does more to facilitate shared dreams than any other philosophy. Even you admitted that shared dreams cannot be ignored on empirical grounds, regardless of rational or theoretical explanations. "It is the worst kind of dogmatism," I think you said, to ignore it, simply because it does not fit with our current worldview, and I absolutely agree. But one thing I can assure you is that it definitely fits with materialism. How could it not? To say that all of our dreams are made of the same substance and interact in the same world? Materialism is an old word anyways, predating Einstein and the equivalence of matter and energy. "Monism," is a modern term that carries mostly the same meaning and essentializes the concept as simply stating that everything is made of one substance or energy - whatever it turns out to be. Although it is not orthodox, there does not seem to be any harm in interpreting Catholic traditions through monism. For example, Acquinas' doctrine of "divine simplicity," that God is so infinitely simple that the human mind tends to see it as infinitely complex... One divinely simple substance that makes up everything is monism in a nutshell. Also, the Catholic fascination with Logos, or the "word," or the inherently rationality of the universe. One word, one universe, one big honkin' shared dream. My advice to those battling so-called evil spirits. Their substance is incidental. Your philosophy is incidental. The mere fact that they appear "evil," which is to say that they appear to want to possess you in some way, reveals that they are weak. If they had any strength, why would they come to you, a peaceful mortal minding your own business? You deal with them by acknowledging their weakness. If they don't run away when you notice it, do what you feel is appropriate. Offer mercy if they are docile. Strike them if they attack. It would be as if you were beginning your training of an animal. Again, whatever they are made of does not define their power, or lack thereof. It is their behavior. And such behavior is always a sign weakness.

[Cyclic13]

well put ex-nine

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Ex Nine ...The mere fact that they appear \"evil,\" which is to say that they appear to want to possess you in some way, reveals that they are weak. If they had any strength, why would they come to you, a peaceful mortal minding your own business? * Perhaps it is in your favor that you can be so naive, that you do not understand the core motivation of Evil, which is self interest. Was Atilla the Hun or Genghis Khan "weak" because they lacked the Wealth that they could acquire by pillaging Civilization? Well, no! Ambition, Pride, Avarice do not necessarily equate to weakness... indeed, they can be Motivations which can come with a lot of energy at their disposal. So what is it that motivates the Evil of the Warrior Demon? Well, I can only suppose that the Spiritual Realms are still a matter for contention. Consider it just like Earth where we could have One Party that favors a Planned Community and a fair and equal distribution of Wealth, and Another Party which favors the open competition of each Man for the enslavement and exploitation of all others -- One Group Good and the other Group Evil. We see such a World. Evil has fought endless battles to protect the Rule of Evil. It is easy to expect that this same struggle carries over to the Spiritual Realms.

[kimpossible]

Aren't we jumping the gun here? I mean, don't you need to prove the existance of "warrior demons" prior to attempting to explain their motivation? I mean, if they don't exist, they probably are pretty lacking in the motivation-department...

[Cyclic13]

LOL!

[lotiononitsskin]

[quote] "Consider it just like Earth where we could have One Party that favors a Planned Community and a fair and equal distribution of Wealth, and Another Party which favors the open competition of each Man for the enslavement and exploitation of all others -- One Group Good and the other Group Evil. " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How can you label one party "Good" and the other "Evil"? Who is being enslaved and exploited? According to the IRS "the wealthiest 20% of Americans pay more than 74% of all federal income tax". I sure hope the "Good" party can save us from this exploitation. Do you frame all of your thoughts using such broad strokes of black and white? Extremists like you make me sick be they left or right.

[Cyclic13]

dont start off your posting on a bad note man... careful of the rash conclusions of people, dont judge someone solely off of one quote let alone what they believe. If you do that you will find what you claim to hate so much and you, have in common... I'll let you take a step back and ponder what that could be.

[kimpossible]

I solve the problem by being an equal opportunity despiser. I despise everyone equally. 8)

[lotiononitsskin]

Why is it that some people feel the need to use a forum like this to espouse their radical political beliefs? Leo's statement is baseless if not ludicrous and serves only to enflame and goad people into a political debate. Did you actually read it? In my short time here I have read a few of this guy's posts and it is fairly obvious he is a self-righteous elitist jerk and this post was the straw that broke the camel's back. You say "(I should not) judge someone solely off of one quote let alone what they believe" So is it okay for me to make similar statements with no repercussions? For example: "all Christians are stupid" or "all black people are on welfare or in jail" or "all Muslims are terrorists" or "homosexuals are going to burn in hell" or "George Bush is a Nazi" or "Howard Dean is a communist" Idiotic statements like these are begging for a response and that is exactly what Leo received.

[Cyclic13]

Well, there are people of all walks of life and all kinds of belief systems in this world and definitely on this forum. For starters, one piece of advice: 'its best to know when to pick your battles', and if you cant win an arguement from the get-go theres really no point in saying anything. And theres one thing that anyone that has read Leo's posts on religion should know before stepping into an arguement with him; theres nothing that will change his mind in terms of the belief department so there is no reason to start an arguement with him ESPECIALLY about his belief system. I just dont see the point in taking this topic to the senseless banter section but posting like your first and second posts are exactly where this topic will end up if you continue like that. I dont agree with most of what Leo posts but he does offer some valuable information from time to time and he's not a bad guy. If religion works for him, so be it, but not for me and IF he were trying some sort of recruiting session or something in the thread then I would see a cause to get upset but, in this case, he is just stating his interpretation of how HE thinks someone should deal with spirits. Now however messed up you may think that is, you can always state your point of view without resorting to name calling, or comparing what he said being equivalent to 'all black people are in prison or on welfare'... That way of criticism is just counter-productive on so many levels. Kimpossible manages to produce an interesting way of getting her point across without really belittling anyone in the process (she lets their own words do that ; thats what I like about her I learned that after my first run-in with her ). Maybe you should take lessons on expressing your opinion from kim One thing about your anger against Leo's lumping things into Black and White. I dont think he ever talked about there NOT being a gray (so theres no reason to assume hes denying it existing), and in reference to the Black and White; there is one constant that nearly anyone can agree on and that is: positive and negative energies existing in the universe(Light and Dark; Yin and Yang; Day and Night; etc). Whether you are a scientist, or religious zealot, the idea of the existence of positive and negative energies is one most people with some sort of higher understanding of the universe will attest to. Now I dont know about all that religious stuff nor do I care but I do know there are positive and negative energies in the universe. Its a concept that doesnt take being 'touched by god' to understand...

[Ex Nine]

Leo's not a crazy Protestant. Nor is he a crazy Paulist Catholic, preaching "by faith and faith alone" and all that nonsense. He's a Marian Catholic (if I'm still correct, Leo), which means he recognizes that the human race is open to new revelations. Much better than the alternatives! Originally posted by kimpossible Aren't we jumping the gun here? *I mean, don't you need to prove the existence of \"warrior demons\" prior to attempting to explain their motivation? *I mean, if they don't exist, they probably are pretty lacking in the motivation-department... "Demon" is a philosophically loaded term. It can't exist in anything other than philosophy. There can and do exist, however, phenomena that appear demonic to an interpreter. We should read "demon" as an interpretation of a phenomenon, not a phenomenon. Philosophy, as a mental activity, does much to crystalize an experience in a dream. Since demons exist in philosophy, they can take on a particularly disturbing existence in dreams. We know empirically that no one can be harmed in a dream. The only danger that exists is mental. The key to "defeating demons," therefore, is some mental activity... rational thought, creativity, whatever works. I know what worked for me, and it's realizing that they had very little or no power at all. Affirming that they "don't exist" did nothing for me. Whatever it was, such phenomena most certainly existed in my dreams and made things difficult. They appeared powerful and my attemps to struggle only made them stronger, for by struggling I weakened myself mentally. Realizing they don't exist is not as good as realizing they don't have any power. Whatever is affecting you in your dreams exists as something, and whatever it is, you are wise to find a way of dealing with it that works.

[Ex Nine]

I'd now like to engage Leo's post on philosophical grounds. I've been raised through Catholic education, so although I use words like "holy," and "evil," and "God," I use them for their basic positive philosophical meaning to accomodate Leo and others of a religious background. It is a force of habit that we use these words and my forthright intention to spin them. Let me also offer the disclaimer that I am waxing philosophically, and am open to ideas that systematically contradict me, if they are sufficiently strong. Originally posted by Leo Volont Perhaps it is in your favor that you can be so naive, that you do not understand the core motivation of Evil, which is self interest. *Was Atilla the Hun or Genghis Khan \"weak\" because they lacked the Wealth that they could acquire by pillaging Civilization?... Self-interest is part of everything that is holy! Self-interest facilitates self-responsibility. WIth mature self-interest you become interested in others because you need cooperation to survive. How are we to be our self if we are not interested in it? There is nothing wrong with it at all. It should be encouraged and nurtured everywhere. You mean \"exclusive\" self-interest that is the heart of evil. The interest in self while excluding interest in others entirely is self-destructive. Those who do it hate others because others do not appear to fulfill them or make them complete. It is a myth that the selfish love no one but themselves. It's just the opposite - the selfish hate themselves. They see themselves as woefully incomplete, and that is why they are constantly hungry, constantly starving. There is another word for the self-interest you are speaking of, and that is self-hate. Historical figures are dead. That does not mean we cannot speak of them, but they are many times removed from our experience, are most certainly not a danger to us now. The ones you mentioned had the power of their people on their sides, the power of their armies. But what if I say, Leo, that not only were they weak, but many of those whom they defeated were weak as well? That is what evil does - it hurts itself, it preys on itself, it preys on the weak. Most crime is committed by the poor on other poor. In our society that has done much to throw away kings and lords, the poor are not as disadvantaged as they once were. A great number of poor people today are exactly that way because of their selfishness. Because of their overwhelming hatred for themselves - they think they are worthless, incapable of accomplishing their wishes, and most definitely weak. And while they succumb to that lazy temptation for excuses, they are right. And they succumb to evil. I have not stated explicitly that weakness=evil, although I am quite close, and it is nothing but tradition that prevents me from using them interchangeably. Goodness is oh a little sacrificial lamb, all innocent and helpless, while evil is big and powerful. Lies. If we're going about this through the theistic approach, let's just put two and two together and be serious. If God is both benevolent and powerful, then his power is for his giving and our taking. Our owning. If you are given this gift and are not powerful, then quite clearly you are tempted to the offering of evil, of weakness of both mind and body, of sitting around and expecting others to serve you or think for you. If you are weak then you reject self-responsibility, power, and strength, as well as learning, growth, and everything else that is truly good. If you are strong then you embrace power and responsibility, and all the other good things. Power is not a rival or excludable good. There is more than enough for everyone. That there is only enough power for a few people is an old, old, selfish, evil concept, and appropriately weak. That power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, is also an adage born from weakness. And, of course, we must remember that, when we are looking for evil or weakness in the universe, those who die are not necessarily weak. When there is a murder or slaughter, who are we to say that all or any of those people were strong or weak? Good or bad? Originally posted by Leo Volont ... One Party that favors a Planned Community and a fair and equal distribution of Wealth, and Another Party which favors the open competition of each Man for the enslavement and exploitation of all others -- One Group Good and the other Group Evil... Both are evil, the second the because of the way you describe it, the first because it doesn't work. The methods of executing the first have been weak and relied on the weakness of people. The second is because anyone who enslaves others is practically as weak as those being enslaved. This is not a post about economics and business ethics, although that is certainly a topic worthy of discussion. It is about dreaming as it relates to the human condition. However, I do not think I am exaggerating when I say that it is an empirical law that no business relationships are strong unless all the stakeholders are winners. I'm confident that strong people will imagine and facilitate better and better ways of exchanging resources, like they always have. People are not made instrinsically evil. Oh, sure, babies appear weak and helpless, but that is one of the greatest accidents of appearances. Their power is hardly matched. They are capable of seeing everything and everyone just as they truly are. They sleep soundly and peacefully. They laugh easily and experience the purest joy. Always experiencing the wonder of exploration. Of new things. They are capable of inspiring strength in those around them. They dream often. And they are capable of loving whomever they come in contact with, regardless of appearance and much else. Sometimes I do not think there are stronger people. Yes, I quite think that I would throttle and flay Augustine for imagining the concept of original sin, if he were not already dead. What an asshole! Then why do people grow up to be such assholes, like Augustine? They start to lose practice of these strengths as they imitate the people around them. But they never lose them. They are not born with evil inside them. It's not internal, it's external. They were simply just born here. While here, they are inexplicably punished, dominated, ruled, their freedoms taken for "protection," every horrible crime, all while they are young and too strong to fight. With all of those horrors, the very fact that people are still alive shows that they are strong. For that matter, who knows what goes on the heart of one who finishes a suicide, and who knows what waits for them. They may have succumbed to weakness in one sense, but facing death with a willful intent is as strong as running away from problems is weak. Perhaps these things cancelled each other out, and they are truly gone! Perhaps not. Perhaps we are not accepting the strength to know. I finish here because I tend to agree with Camus that the only true philosophical question is that of suicide. Nothing is so profoundly personal to all humans while so deeply paradoxical. I apologize if I've rambled. I bet you disagree with quite a bit. But to go back and answer your original question, civilzation has withstood much and is quite alive today. Evil has done a poor job of holding it back, as to be expected. And, civilization is, of course, not finished growing! There will be new forms as long as people have the courage to build them. And they will, because while the temptation for weakness, to imitate to world, to imitate only what is seen is present, the one towards strength and goodness, towards our true selves, is always greater, and always present, so long as we exist.

[lotiononitsskin]

Solskye, I never made a comment about Leo's religion. I have no idea what religious beliefs he practices and I do not care. I do not make sweeping remarks about groups regardless of my affiliations unlike Leo. If no one here can see what was wrong about the comment he made about one party being good and another party being evil which ENSLAVES and EXPLOITS everyone else, then there is nothing left to say. I agree this is not the place for this type of argument so maybe Leo should keep his biased, generalized and fictionalized political statements to himself to avoid offending people in the future.

[Cyclic13]

ummm ya... anyway welcome to the forum...

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by lotiononitsskin Why is it that some people feel the need to use a forum like this to espouse their radical political beliefs? Leo's statement is baseless if not ludicrous and serves only to enflame and goad people into a political debate. Did you actually read it? In my short time here I have read a few of this guy's posts and it is fairly obvious he is a self-righteous elitist jerk and this post was the straw that broke the camel's back. You say \"(I should not) judge someone solely off of one quote let alone what they believe\" So is it okay for me to make similar statements with no repercussions? For example: \"all Christians are stupid\" or \"all black people are on welfare or in jail\" or \"all Muslims are terrorists\" or \"homosexuals are going to burn in hell\" or \"George Bush is a Nazi\" or \"Howard Dean is a communist\" Idiotic statements like these are begging for a response and that is exactly what Leo received. I know you and your kind love Hate Speech, but try to stay on topic please.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by lotiononitsskin Solskye, I never made a comment about Leo's religion. I have no idea what religious beliefs he practices and I do not care. I do not make sweeping remarks about groups regardless of my affiliations unlike Leo. If no one here can see what was wrong about the comment he made about one party being good and another party being evil which ENSLAVES and EXPLOITS everyone else, then there is nothing left to say. I agree this is not the place for this type of argument so maybe Leo should keep his biased, generalized and fictionalized political statements to himself to avoid offending people in the future. I was pointing out that Evil is not at all hidden or elusive. Some of the Posters were even questioning the existence of Evil. I merely wanted to point that not only does Evil exist, but it is even organized in Political Parties that manage to win Elections... even since the Nazi Party's electoral victory in 1933. Evil is popular. And I am surprised that people stand up to defend it, and object that I would attempt to oppose it. It looks like a moral inversion.

[kimpossible]

"blah blah blah [avoid pointed intelligent post] blah blah blah" I'm losing what little respect I'd had for you, Leo. Atleast make an attempt at responding to Ex's well reasoned argument...

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by kimpossible \"blah blah blah [avoid pointed intelligent post] blah blah blah\" I'm losing what little respect I'd had for you, Leo. Atleast make an attempt at responding to Ex's well reasoned argument... Oh, well, look at yourself. Why would anybody care for YOUR respect. As for Ex-nine... what can be said for somebody who defends Barbarism. If you think it 'reasonable', then you are just being fooled by words.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Leo The Windbag Commie Moron Oh, well, look at yourself. Why would anybody care for YOUR respect. ROFL! That's pretty funny! Hey, good response there! Great counter argument! Did you parents have any children that lived? Wait: Don't answer that. The answer is self-evident.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by kimpossible ROFL! That's pretty funny! Good response there! Great counter argument! Did you parents have any children that lived? Go back to your Dreams. Maybe with some inspiration you will know what it is to have a creative and original thought. Then maybe you might have some respect for yourself.

[kimpossible]

I've scraped things more "creative and original" than you off the bottom of my shoes. If there is any such thing as inherent evil, it is those like you. Feable, unreasoning, weak-minded. THAT is evil. And THAT is an adequate description of you. Climb back in your hole. If reincarnation _were_ to exist, you might have some value to humanity in some future incarnation. As it is right now, you are really just consuming resources that those of us with more than two active brain-cells can use for good purpose.