 Originally Posted by VinceField
My experience is that my astral projection practice seems to fuel my lucid dreaming practice. I started lucid dreaming spontaneously a short while after I started astral projecting, and over the years I've done very little lucid dreaming preparation and induction work compared to my astral projection practice. I've learned to recognize certain triggers which spark my lucidity during dreams, and it seems that this is now engrained in my consciousness and I don't imagine it is going to stop. Again, I don't lucid dream every night, but it happens often enough that I'm satisfied and don't feel the need to put extra effort into it.
That's strange that you started with AP. I started with LDs, although I am not 100% convinced that there is a true difference in APs vs. LDs. I have had some weird experiences (such as seeing my brother approach the front door while projecting, and it happening in real life at the same time), that make me question. And my guides do seem to say there is such a thing. However, there is not much difference in the experience overall, with a few short exceptions (mainly, the projection process of leaving through a chakra, and the presence of a silver cord, but even that is give or take).
 Originally Posted by VinceField
Well I'm not sure it's something to be disagreed with, I simply shared my experience and there are other projectors I know of that have had similar experiences (including Monroe). I didn't say this is the case for everyone but it makes sense that it would be a natural phenomenon. In the beginning of one's OBE practice the energy body and consciousness are usually not very developed and perhaps even underdeveloped. Vibrations can be strong and jarring in the early days, as was the case for me and many others. But over time as my consciousness and energy body developed, the vibrations lessened, and I believe this has to do with the fact that an underdeveloped consciousness and energy body will resonate at a lower and denser frequency, and thus the vibrational state will appear stronger and coarser. As one develops, higher states of consciousness and higher dimensions are able to be attained, and the energy body begins to resonate at higher frequencies which are less coarse.
I've never read Monroe, but I have read others (Robert Bruce, Robert Moss, Robert Wagoner, why so many Roberts?! etc.). I've never heard of this theory before. It's an interesting theory, but at the end of the day, I do not think the level of vibrations is indicative of once's level of consciousness or spiritual frequency. I think ones actions and ones overall emotional state of being are more indicative of that.
 Originally Posted by VinceField
But the vibrational state hasn't been common for me in terms of lucid dreaming. I usually don't experience vibrations at the onset of WILDing, it's more of a mental projection, not with any energy body, as is the case with astral projection. I'm wondering if you practice astral projection or just lucid dreaming, as you mentioned having vibrations but never mentioned astral projection.
Yes I have projected. When I do project, I push my energy out of my heart chakra area. Vibrations are common for me in either lucid dreams or astral. In lucid dreaming, they are most common when performing a WILD (going straight from waking to sleep with uninterrupted consciousness). Also, during a DEILD, in the middle of the transition from dream to dream.
Robert Bruce has an interesting theory that whenever you lucid dream or astral project, we have a mind/body split and basically part of consciousness remains with our body, while part goes into Dream Land. When we successfully project (or have a lucid), we are experiencing life from the consciousness in Dream Land. When we're non-lucid, we're more identified with our Body Consciousness that stays behind. He also uses this theory to explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis. I'm not saying it's a correct theory, I have my doubts, but, something to think about. I wouldn't rule it out completely, either.
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