Thread: predicting the future

Are you kidding?

This is more possible than winning the lotto...

Oh ya, hence the word "theory"

More possible? Possibility is a binary state. And probability doesn't have anything to do with truth or possibility. So how would one go about predicting the future, according to your theory?

That's not predicting the future, that's "common sense."

its using common sence to figure out what is going to happen

Originally posted by magicrules22311
its using common sence to figure out what is going to happen

Yes...? I don't see what you were trying to prove with that statement.

dude, predicting the future is when you know what is going to happen!!

I was saying that you can use common sence to do this!

But I dont wana argue with you guys, not gona post here anymore, figure things out yourself.

Originally posted by magicrules22311
dude, predicting the future is when you know what is going to happen!!

I was saying that you can use common sence to do this!

But I dont wana argue with you guys, not gona post here anymore, figure things out yourself.

You misunderstand what people think "predicting the future is." That is the paranormal phenomena where you very accurately predict an event in the future. It's not like saying "I'm going to eat today," because that is terribly obvious.

nono

Im just saying a basic way of using a percentage of chances of certain things happening to predict if something is actually going to happen.

I cant explain it, but oh well.

Originally posted by magicrules22311
nono

Im just saying a basic way of using a percentage of chances of certain things happening to predict if something is actually going to happen.

I cant explain it, but oh well.

Hey there, magicrules,
Don't waste your time arguing w/him. He is one of our more famous skeptics. Ignore him, and just focus on the topic.
There is only one thing I know about here, and that is the word EYE. Although someone could maybe do that, it is easier to do so in a LD, and better not to do it in public!!
And doing I say can definitely ruin your future and get you disqualified from games like Lottery bingo, what is the number, what I am thinking, etc. It is a crying shame when that happens, since you'll probably have a score of 12, and the highest score in class is 3 (major difference, huh?).
Anyways, it may exist in small proportions, but as people think it would be easy to live with doing that, it is not (thanx to party-poopers like Randi showing their butts at our doorsteps), because skeptics alike attack us a lot, as do many other people wanting their 'things' told. People like that just want to live a normal life (it may be easy to avoid future dangers, but it makes more people attack us) but LD w/complete dominion every night!!

I'm really at a loss for words... but I will explain:

(1) You make an assumption about the future based on logic and facts. Depending on the integrity of your logic and facts the probability that your assumption about the future will come out as you predicted is high or low. In the best case the probability is 100%, then you predict the future. This is what science tries to do.

(2) You claim to predict the future without the use of logic or facts. Your alleged knowledge of the future is either result of an unexplainable paranormal phenomenon or it is a mere guess.

Now please, look at what you wrote. What you are talking about is (1) as a whole and (2) with the basis of mere guessing. If (1) works out, it is what humanity has been doing since thousands of years. If (2) works out by mere guessing, it is a coincidence and doesn't have anything to do with prediction because prediction implies the claim that at least a medium probability of occurence in the future is said to be given.

im talking about more of a scientific way of doing it.

Originally posted by Korittke
I'm really at a loss for words... but I will explain:

(1) You make an assumption about the future based on logic and facts. Depending on the integrity of your logic and facts the probability that your assumption about the future will come out as you predicted is high or low. In the best case the probability is 100%, then you predict the future. This is what science tries to do.

(2) You claim to predict the future without the use of logic or facts. Your alleged knowledge of the future is either result of an unexplainable paranormal phenomenon or it is a mere guess.

Now please, look at what you wrote. What you are talking about is (1) as a whole and (2) with the basis of mere guessing. If (1) works out, it is what humanity has been doing since thousands of years. If (2) works out by mere guessing, it is a coincidence and doesn't have anything to do with prediction because prediction implies the claim that at least a medium probability of occurence in the future is said to be given.

If you are talking to me, then
1) It is true that science can take answers into unsolved theories of the present, and sometimes can actually guess what'll be like in the future, but many of the things science predicted would happen were wrong, so I am slightly skeptical about science.
2) Depends on your point of view. All I do in my enviornment that might seem somewhat weird is score big on games like Card Concentration (31), and lottery bingo (12). Turns out, many things (at least 75%) I have done have turned out accurate, but I am not the one you want....Michelle is (she gets 15% more right than I do). It has nothing to do w/Prec as far as I know of since prec has to be like 2 days ahead of time, while I can only guess what is going to happen up to 17 hours a head of time (I call it guessing, b/c that is what is used in most scientific things)....I would not call that much more than a mere talent to try to get through the day full of mean people (at school), and maybe trying to figure out my day a little (maybe even help me on a RPG). That is all it is, nothing really that good to look into....just a minscule talent (nothing I don't think is as good as LDing, ...?s, DVs, the Computer, or Video Gaming in terms of true talent!!)

B/c according to my theory of EYE (don't ask), you were talking to me, intent on proving me wrong. Just waiting...If you were not talking to me, I am truely sorry!

magicrules - Science predicts that an object will fall to the ground if it's mid air on earth. I don't see why you needed to make a new thread about this. People have been eager to find out laws of the universe since the beginning of intelligence.

nesgirl - Well, I only said science tries to predict. In some cases (laws of physics) it works rather good, but if you combine it into huge systems (weather forecast) it can be way off. Science is developed by humans so of course it tends to be erroneous.
I dont know you nor do I know Michelle so I can't really relate to anything you've said. And predicting the future doesn't have anything to with the frame of time that is between prediction and event but it is about predicting something that usually is supposed to unpredictable (that is, cannot be approximated by scientific/rational/factual means).
Thinking of oneself to have a certain talent is like thinking of chakras and souls. You're becoming over-sensible of what you are trying to find and you will indeed find a load of things. How many approximations do you do a day? Even if you get a good score, I'd suppose that most of your approximations can be leveled down to a natural rather than a supernatural talent, one in which you improved through practice. This is very similar to mind reading (I think it's called ESP). It's possible to certain degrees but it can be explained with the different branches of science.

(someone is having their special time of the month )

how can I reply to your last post? I just think that it is scientifically possible to predict the future, hence why this topic was called my THEORY on predicting the future...


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Well, it looks like your theory is nothing new. The only thing debatble about the whole thing would be the problem of induction in science as a whole and everything related.

Originally posted by Korittke

nesgirl - Well, I only said science tries to predict. In some cases (laws of physics) it works rather good, but if you combine it into huge systems (weather forecast) it can be way off. Science is developed by humans so of course it tends to be erroneous.
I dont know you nor do I know Michelle so I can't really relate to anything you've said. And predicting the future doesn't have anything to with the frame of time that is between prediction and event but it is about predicting something that usually is supposed to unpredictable (that is, cannot be approximated by scientific/rational/factual means).
Thinking of oneself to have a certain talent is like thinking of chakras and souls. You're becoming over-sensible of what you are trying to find and you will indeed find a load of things. How many approximations do you do a day? Even if you get a good score, I'd suppose that most of your approximations can be leveled down to a natural rather than a supernatural talent, one in which you improved through practice. This is very similar to mind reading (I think it's called ESP). It's possible to certain degrees but it can be explained with the different branches of science.

Well, maybe now I can shove that down Randi's throat, and tell him to get the flipping heck out of my website.
Depends on the day, really. I will not do that stuff on Sundays, b/c I am not allowed, and I cannot do it on days I go relieve my stress at the temple, since that would build up. It can also depend on my mood. Today, I made a couple of accurate guesses no one had any idea of: refunds of the Raffle lottery (no one knew who would win, and who would get refunds), and knowing I had failed at getting an award for this term. Those were not so much precs, as they were knowledgeable. Anyone could figure out those.

In dreams?...of course its possible to predict the future in dreams. Usually small things like when a couple is going to break up having only met them once. What people usually have in precognitive dreams.


Not like a psychic or anything, just subconcious intuition.

Seems to me what your talking about is metaphysics, questioning the world and the use of commen sense, basicly you can tell what most likly will happen, commen sense, philosohy, logic, call it what you like.

yup, that is exactly what I was talking about

doesnt matter, the past and future already exist, which past and future you experience is up to you

nahh, I dont beleive that the future exists

but that is a discussion for another topic

Prediction of the future is possible. Ultimately, as far as we humans are concerned, the past + the present = the future. If you had a collection of data vast enough to include all of the past and all of the present at any given moment, you would have little difficulty predicting with near 100% accuracy what was to come. Obviously, this sort of data collection is completely out of the question, but that does not mean that future prediction is out of the question. It's just a matter of how much discrete, existent data you have (and probably used in conjunction with a multitude of inferences) that will determine with what accuracy you can predict the future. If you are a very perceptive person, it's possible that you may have noticed a vast array of data without realizing it and drawn conclusions that are revealed to you in a dream. From my experience, at least, all future-prediction during dreams has to do with very personal subjects, mostly people with whom you spend a lot of time...I think there is very little mystical or paranormal circumstances behind these phenomena, but rather just an inability to consciously perceive as much as we think we can or would like to be able to.