Strange Feeling

[Xanous]

Some times when I meditate or focus on relaxation techniques for lucid dreaming I get a very srange feeling in my head. It is very hard to describe but I feel like I am partly disconected from myself and very aware of my surroundings at the same time. It is like being far away and very close at the same time. The more I concentate on this feeling the more intense it gets. Almost to the point to were I feel like my conscienous is expanding or moving away. I then get a little scared and very excited until I either just get up for a while or it fades. The first time I expeirenced this I had just fallen asleep and it scared me very much. I almost get the feeling of something closing in on me too. I dont know if any of you have this feeling or if it is just me but maybe someone knows what I am experiencing.

[MisterBubbles]

Maybe because you're a psycho who put's weird things in their avatars to intentionally scare people's sensitive minds.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by MisterBubbles Maybe because you're a psycho who put's weird things in their avatars to intentionally scare people's sensitive minds. Hey! That is a little harsh! Be a bit nicer to the newbie! To answer your question, it sounds like you could be entering SP and the trans state of a WILD. If you go with the flow, you could enter a dream!

[Seeker]

Originally posted by MisterBubbles Maybe because you're a psycho who put's weird things in their avatars to intentionally scare people's sensitive minds. MisterBubbles that was totally uncalled for. I do not know what kind of problem you have with this member, but this is the second post I have found where you are attacking. If this does not stop, action will be taken.

[Xanous]

Well, he may have a point, although that was a bit hostile for someone seeking a peaceful forum (I think maybe he wasnt entirely serious). I used that avitar on a completely different forum and I suppose I have become a bit desensitized to it. I did not intend to creep any one out. I will try to find something more suitable. Nesgirl, what is SP and the trans state of a WILD? I was thinking maybe I was consciencly entering the dream state. Perhaps that was I always experience when I am about to dream but I just dont remember it.

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Xanous Well, he may have a point, although that was a bit hostile for someone seeking a peaceful forum (I think maybe he wasnt entirely serious). I used that avitar on a completely different forum and I suppose I have become a bit desensitized to it. I did not intend to creep any one out. I will try to find something more suitable. Nesgirl, what is SP and the trans state of a WILD? I was thinking maybe I was consciencly entering the dream state. Perhaps that was I always experience when I am about to dream but I just dont remember it. You don't have to worry about it. Your avatar was really just fine. MrBubbles shouldn't be pushing you like that. If you really want a new avatar, I can assist with that. Sleep Paralysis is the state where your body is asleep, and you are usually dreaming, but you can sometimes be awake during it, and unable to move. The Trans state of a WILD is when you are about to enter a dream.

[Xanous]

Oh I've had SP this was not it. SP is just horrible! I think it must have been the WILD. Thanks for the input!

[nesgirl119]

Originally posted by Xanous Oh I've had SP this was not it. SP is just horrible! I think it must have been the WILD. Thanks for the input! No prob, and if you have any other questions, feel free to ask!

[Xanous]

OK I tried entering WILD last night and I got the same feeling in my head. It was like everything was closing in on me and opening up at the sametime. It made my heart pound but I tried to go with the flow. I found it hard to keep my eyes closed and I felt very light. While I was going through this, all imagery stopped unless I really tried. Then my wife started talking in her sleep and I lost it. I ended up falling asleep before I could get it back. Any Idea what the heck this is? Is it normal. It realy isnt very pleasant, but I am going to keep trying if it will let me into a WILD.

[maclema]

I get almost the exact same feeling quite a lot. I actually have grown to quite enjoy it. It almost seems as if you are half way between reality and a dream. The ability to be disconnected from yourself while very aware of your surroundings can be quite strange. Its almost as if your above yourself looking down and around the room. Sometimes you may see strangs "figures" or "shapes" around the room that you know arent actually there. If you can manage to "enjoy" or "accept" this stage play around and try a few different things. For example, try leaving the room (be careful, I have heard from a friend that this can get really creepy). I have found this stage to usually only be intense for a few minutes, then it fades and I fall asleep, the times when I get this are the times I seem to remember my dreams the clearest. - Matt

[alfredpotter]

waaaaait a minute I've experienced something similar to this in my meditation too. It takes a while and sometimes doesnt happen at all but it feels like my head is pulsating back and forth, gently though. and my hands are turned around the other way. either that or i can't locate my limbs at all. there arent vibrations like with my WILDs, just a very calm feeling. VERY CALM. and i notice that i can completely clear my mind & my neck feels like it's two feet long. Maybe you're experiencing ultimate calm or.. something i'm not entirely sure of: "enlightenment" But i found that this only ever happens after extensive and exhausting physical stress. such as a workout or running. Does any of this ring a bell?

[Xanous]

Originally posted by alfredpotter waaaaait a minute I've experienced something similar to this in my meditation too. It takes a while and sometimes doesnt happen at all but it feels like my head is pulsating back and forth, gently though. and my hands are turned around the other way. either that or i can't locate my limbs at all. there arent vibrations like with my WILDs, just a very calm feeling. VERY CALM. and i notice that i can completely clear my mind & my neck feels like it's two feet long. Maybe you're experiencing ultimate calm or.. something i'm not entirely sure of: "enlightenment" But i found that this only ever happens after extensive and exhausting physical stress. such as a workout or running. Does any of this ring a bell? no it is different for me. I am not realy calm because it sort of scares me. For some reason the rest of it sound familar though. I dont know why. You said your neck feels like it is two feet long. I think maybe you just feel disconected from your physical body as do I sometimes. Maybe that is what you meant to say?

[alfredpotter]

yes exactly, I wonder what it is ..

[Xanous]

I dont know but I have been trying to get there again and I cant for some reason.

[Ryden]

Well, even though this is the beyond dreaming section I'm still a little hesitant to say this, but, it could be (gasp!) the beginning stages of an astral projection or out of body experience. Some people find the separation comes involuntarily, and you might be one. On a different and slightly more socially acceptable note, if it is happening during meditation you may be ascending into higher stages. I'm no scholar in this but I know in certain meditation traditions there are steps towards enlightenment. The only one that comes to mind is "The Removed Self", but read up, perhaps your experience will fit into one of those steps, and perhaps it could shed some light on your question.

[adhesive]

love that state its amazing i can go in that stat any time when i need to clear my mind. do it for 30 min Some days ago I dislocatad my shoulder, so when im doing the relax part my pain goes away.. anyway the hardest part is the itching in the face, it Feels like something is crawling all over my face, like a spider. but i realised that it cant be any animal. Because after locating the crawling it seems like it just is an infinite loop from point A to B