Help with falling into trance

[Swank]

Hey guys, Im still trying to have my first astral projection. Ive been reading Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce recently, and have had problems with the falling from being relaxed into the trance state. All of the techniques which are basically getting you to feel a sense of falling or going down, I cant seem to get to work, my mind doesnt want to recreate it. Any ideas anyone?

[Thorkis]

This is a real problem for me as well. I've had the best experience with going down a rope. Don't go to fast, just take one "erm, hand? at a time heh". Make the rope thick enough to grasp and put some rape strands that frizz out on it so you have something to feel besides hard rope. Also its a good idea to concentrate on feeling the rope, more then it is seeing it. If you feel the rope and feel yourself climbing down it, the downward falling sensation should come automaticly or atleast with little effort. If this isnt enough put a wall such as a rockface or brick in front of you to see your progression downwards. I've used the cave "rockface" / rope idea most the time but have also used a rope ladder and a steel ladder like the ones you see in sewers or other likely tunnels. Just to mix things up so that I dont fall asleep. The ladders make things more complicated though, it's a good idea to keep in mind that using your feet is always optional. Also remember to feel the rope / ladders more then see them. Imagine your closing your eyes during your falling work.

[Swank]

Thanks Thorkis, I'll try that tonight. Do you feel like youre going down the rope with body flat and your hands dragging you downwards, or do you imagine your whole body coiled around a rope like you would be in real life?

[Thorkis]

Thanks Thorkis, I'll try that tonight. Do you feel like youre going down the rope with body flat and your hands dragging you downwards, or do you imagine your whole body coiled around a rope like you would be in real life? Oh I forgot to mention, in this part I am usually moving slow but I'm super strong so I just hold all my weight in my arms without any problems. I am hanging on the rope not dragging. I don't rap the rope around myself but never really thought of doing that either.

[Swank]

I tried that and I was getting some results from it but very minimal. I actually strangely stumbled across something else to get me into trance finally - All I did was try autosuggestion, just started telling myself over and over again that im falling deeper and deeper into trance. All of sudden, I started falling into a really deep trance. After a while of experiencing it I started drifting out, tried autosuggestion again and bang, right back deep into it. Crazy stuff. Next problem is being in a trance, going from there to separating from my body. Ideas? Thanks for the help already!

[Thorkis]

There are several ways to seperate from the body but first you must get the vibration right if you want any success at all. The easiest way to do this I have found through all the "chakra work / dream keys / imagining", possible ways is this. Its very simple and once your tingling all over " if you've ever felt it before which is possible, directly after you wake up don't move and the vibrations will be there automaticly " thats without going into a trance of course. If you are inducing the trance and have gotton that far already, simply stop autosuggestion, stop thinking period. Keep your mind completly empty. If you start to seeing images " Which you will, this will be the starting of falling asleep " simply acknowledge them and continue striving for an empty mind. I may have mixed up the falling into a trance part ^_^ lol oh well, if that doesn't work look for the vibrations after you wake up. If you don't move or think to much, they will be there, atleast most the time, eventually you'll find them. Once you know what they feel like you can pull them to you at any time just by willing them there, while in the trance state of course, its possible while in just a relaxed state but much harder. There are also different foods / drinks that you can eat/drink "Not drugs or alchohol or anything bad for you" that will have a high vibration and will help you attain these vibrations. Garlic is an excellent choice, so are unions. The reason for these vibrations is so that you are vibrating closer to the astral plane then our physical plane, it really helps in making the transition easier.