I have struggled with this since my first experience a few years back. trying to explain it has only led to debates about levels of lucidity. |
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I have struggled with this since my first experience a few years back. trying to explain it has only led to debates about levels of lucidity. |
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I don't think you can explain those dreams by stating that you were entirely conscious there, as much as in real life. Because if that happens there should be no barrier to dream manipulation, at least, normally. Maybe for you somehow there exists some barrier there that prevents dream control? For one thing, a lot of what happens during a (lucid)dream depends on your expectations. After the 1st time this happened (maybe by accident) you might have expected it to happen again? For me personally, I have had lucid dreams in which I was as consciou as in real life and I also had control there. Just some thoughts... I do hope I understood your problem right though ... |
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I'm a BUG. Beyond Uber God.
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I'm a BUG. Beyond Uber God.
QUOTE(Xetrov @ Dec 19 2006, 01:26 PM) * |
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What I mean is; the first time, it might have happened by accident (a random occurance), and later on, when the same conditions emerge again, you (consciously or perhaps more so, subconsciously) expect the same outcome of these conditions. |
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I'm a BUG. Beyond Uber God.
This actually brings forth an idea I've tinkered with. What if the only reason we are bound by physical laws, is because our Conscious mind is in control? In lucid dreaming or Conscious and Subconscious mind combine giving us the abilities to do whatever we want. If the subconscious stayed the subconscious in a Dream, how would it be any different then reality? What if we were to achieve a merge of the Conscious and Subconscious mind in the physical world? I understand completely what you mean. |
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Sounds like it could be Hypnagogic State. Somewhere in between conciousness and sleep, you enter the hypnagogic state, where you can see images, dream scenes, hear voices, maybe even feel stuff touching you. I've heard the hypnagogic state likened to schizphrenia. |
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Thats not what hes saying at all. Hes saying hes in a dream, knows hes in a dream, is fully aware its a dream, its vivid realisitic and he has full awareness, but it is so utterly real the signs are minimal and he has no "Lucid Powers" despite being completely aware. |
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If the subconscience merges with the conscience during our "awake reality", then we are defined as insane. We'd see things that aren't really there. Maybe they are there, but no one else can see them because they are experiencing their "mostly conscience" reality. The people who have dillusions, hear voices coming out of nowhere - that's pretty much what would happen if our subconscience merged with our conscience far enough. |
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Then if that was the case a lucid dream would be insanity. Which it would be if you were also physically awake and not just awake in your dream and could not separate the two. |
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This I believe is where there is a difference. |
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sorry I didn't explain myself completely. actually I AM in the dream and I AM in my body. but I have a feeling that I watch what is going around. not what "myself" is really watching... |
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What a long, strange trip it's been.
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