Thread: !?THE END OF THE WORLD?! (is very close)

Originally posted by spudamore
indirect evidence is obselete because it doesn't comfirm or deny the exsistence of something.

I suggest you look up the term "obsolete". Maybe the word you were looking for is useless? meaningless? irrelevant? inadequate? of no use?

Regardless, you are incorrect. If I punched you in the back of the head you could infer that some sort of force jolted your head forward. Or take the example of ultraviolet radiation, you can't see it but if you stay out in the sun too long you will definitely see and feel its effects, implying the existence of some form of energy that caused the observed effect.

You too would benefit from understanding Occam's Razor.

am i incorrect??????????

how do you know??????????

ockham razor is a load of b/s. leaves to many variables unquestioned. and comes to an unsure conclusion.

how do you know that the force is completey something else???????????? or the effects come from something else besides the the force you thought it came from???????

How old are you spudamore?

why does age come into this what does it have to do with anything we are talking about now???????????

If you want to be an existentialist, (ie. there's no such thing as real knowledge), then at least present your argument semi-intelligently and we can have a debate. But if you're going to just continue to spew out random claims and answer questions with inane questions, please do us all a favour and save yourself the wear-and-tear on your keyboard.

you mean do you a favor....
did the people of the board elect you as their spokesman??
sometimes you have to answer questions with questions to get a conclusion.

if you don't like it don't answer back to it.. it just like when people they think that they have seen something indecent on t.v and complain about it but they don't bother to change the channel. how easy is that??

Originally posted by spudamore
Rakkantekimusouka who is george takei???

Well, you can read all about him on his official site: www.georgetakei.com

spudamore, you clearly convey to me that you are running out of arguments, as you've moved from debating about the issue in hand to (trying) to debate about stopping debating.

Please move the epistemological debate to the epistemology thread on the psychology forums.

That's very interesting Ramu, why him though? Is he the real trigger, or is he just the guy you saw in your vision at the time when this event happens?

Originally posted by Belisarius
That's very interesting Ramu, why him though? Is he the real trigger, or is he just the guy you saw in your vision at the time when this event happens?

Well, when I first saw him, I thought it was just coincidence -- but as I continued to see it over and over, I realized that it was not, and he was in fact, the trigger.

Hmmm, I dont believe this will happen. I'm an optimist, so I believe good will prevail and why not? I have a wonderful daugther who is the best thing in the world, and believe most people are good in the world. I have to blieve this for her future and will continue to do so. There will be no end of the world.

Some people believe mankind is cruel and always at war, but in this age we are better off than any other really. Imagine living 1,000's of years ago. You only have to look up the Roman times to see how bloody it was then. In this age most people are for living the best way they can, apart from the freaks like terrorists etc.

LOL - I know some of you will laugh, but as I said I'm an optimist, there is too much joy in my life for me to be negative.....

You mean wer's idea or my vision? Or both?

Anyway, whatever the case, I must say, you certainly have a great attitude toward life...

Optimism is great, but reality, when you look at human history as a whole, tends to be pretty tragic... Question is, do I learn from the loads of tragedy or do I contribute to history repeating itself by remaining ignorant of it for the sake of "feeling better"?

It's not one or the other -- you can learn from the mistakes of the past and still be optimistic.

I agree... that's what I meant about learning from the past. But there is sometimes a point where optimism can be used by some to mask their willful ignorance of reality just because reality may be unpleasant or difficult to deal with or because it helps one's self-interest. This is, in itself tragic. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. From my experience, I'm only saying that we need to be real enough to face some inevitable pain and extreme trials sometimes, even if it means much discomfort for ourselves or those close to us. I guess the following statement is what prompted this...

In this age most people are for living the best way they can, apart from the freaks like terrorists etc. [/b]

That may be true, but since what is "best" for some people sometimes ends up costing other people - or it may at least make us forget those who are less fortunate and envy those who are more fortunate. Sometimes it's easy to candycoat reality so we can remain "optimistic" but I've found that MORE often what we are faced with is the reality of humanity's innate selfishness and greed... As far as the end of the world coming, I embrace the concept because I believe that in the long run, I'm good to go, though temporarily we may endure some harsh times and refining fire.

If anyone cares, I've had a few dreams about the Apocalypse of mankind. It's funny because alot of my dreams turn into visions of the future, I just had one about this girl I liked hooking up with an old old boyfriend, and in the next few days she actually did. Maybe my dreams about armageddon might be visions of the future too.

Can you give any details about your visions, Khronos? Maybe you and I are on the same wavelength...it would be great if you could give details whee I'm lacking.

So?

WARNING: The following might disturb your senses of reality. 8)

We often look at truth with one outcome, but what if there were 2 truths? Two turths to one force, each standing for their own purpose. Since one can never become the other, a balance is formed. Like the yin yang symbol that goes back to the early chinese dynasties, two sides can never become one for it is both that create the circle, yet both sides show their truce for they are linked. Mankind has tried to understand every concept to life, to understand the unkown, yet we are still held on a set of principles. We can only understand one side or the other truthfully for we can only see at one perspective at a time, no matter how much we try. This is why war is inevitable, one side can never understand the full purpose behind the other side without giving up their own purpose. Sure we justify the situation but justification can only lead to one truth.

This is where I come in... My whole life I've been a drifter, I never really fit into either side, I always looked at things from an overall perspective that didn't include me. When I was born, I developed mild cerebral pausy, a disease that is not fully understood but can cause the cerebral cortex to act differently. It was probably developed because my heart stopped beating when I was born, and my oxygen flow differed, luckily they ressurected me. My point in saying this is that although I've always grounded my mind to interact with others on their same level, I was always seeing any situation from all sides, a godly perspective. I was baptised roman catholic after I was born yet now I have my own religion, my own look of life, I am my own God. I believe in a balance between heaven and hell, a neutral that brings both together. Now we look at the two sides as know they cannot be linked for good can never become evil. Thus a 3rd realm is created, a thin line between both abundant sources of existance and oblivion, like the yin yang symbol i believe that there is a balance, a thin line of resistance that keeps both sides melded together at a balance. But what if that balance was broken? Before I go any further it is essential that you understand the following.

How do we achieve this 3rd tier? We sacrifice our purpose, our sin, our morals, leaving all but our pure essence. To form a view that brings both views of 'inside the dot' and 'outside the circle' together in one solitude. Heaven and Hell we're once the same force and some still think they are, but how were they created? From one essence, for it is essence that creates a beggining in the first place... An essence to great to possibly comprehend. But through my life, my research on the abundant chain to existance, and ofcourse my travels, I've found a purpose where their was none, or rather an inevitability of time. You see, we are on Earth for a reason, this is that 3rd tier. We are just blinded by our own set of principles. We are on the thin lines yet we refuse to seperate from these lines for our needs of life and search for reason. In time, our truth, our expansive force will break the thin line of the 3rd tier (Reality). It is inevitable for aslong as we continue to gain knowledge and wisdom, our balance will soon be shattered. Hopefully you know where I am coming from now.

When we once again discover that this line is broken, we will try to master the spirits, taking advantage of what we could not before for our own selfish needs and pleasures. Witch craft, magic, psi powers, it is all true. When one taps in to these abilities they bend the line of existance, but what if that line wasn't there? What if their was no resistance and instead an abundant source of power? We continue to obtain, understand and tamper with the potentials of these mythological forces, we will continue to pull the two opposing forces together, but without the barrier that there once was, we will be crushed inbetween the great war of the gods. But in all the carnage that science will soon arise, a hope will still remain...

The visions I had are far too drastic and abnormal to explain in detail. If you wish for me to give more info on them feel free to pm me.

Just occured to me, there are at least 50 people on the internet that have contradictory visions as to the end of the world, and their claims are as respectable as yours (not just Khronos).

Was that a journal entry or something? I was expecting a dream description rather than a philosophical monologue... (no offense Khronos-it was interesting...)

I too have had apocalyptic dreams and woke up with severe anxiety and fear for my family and loved ones. I have written some down, but have yet to understand their relevence or importance (if any).

Originally posted by Kaniaz
Just occured to me, there are at least 50 people on the internet that have contradictory visions as to the end of the world, and their claims are as respectable as yours (not just Khronos).

I know...in that respect I fit in with about 48 other "net kooks" making grandiose claims about the end of the world ^^;;

Yes, because it's not going to happen, much less over some japanese man who likes to sleep in a bed every so often which could obviously cause the world to just set on fire. Whoever would of guessed?

Tsk, tsk...oh Kaniaz, you poor mundane... if only you could see what I see -- but nevermind. You must believe what is right for you. And if that is void of the mystical, then so be it.

Edit: I really like your new sig, by the way

I had a recent dream where I was outside during daylight and I started to notice that the night was taking long to come. In my dream it was already 8 pm and the day was quite bright, 9pm came and the sun did not seem to set and it was actually brighter, 10 pm came and I decided to tell people what was going on by telling them the planet is getting ready to stop and spin the other way and that the planet was going to be evacuated as I've told them before.

Recently I saw this video; good to look at about a coming Magnetic Pole reversal during Earth's Planetary Evacuation which confirms my dream; this is the end of the old and the beginning of the new:



abundanthope. net/talkitup/showthread.php?1992-The-HOW-IT-WORKS-of-EVACUATION

youtu. be/dlvAG_Jmkdo