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      Quote Originally Posted by loikan View Post
      Yeah i wonder the same thing do you guys really hear voice. It's wierd I don't get any vioce from my subconscious mind even if im in alpha or theta state.
      I asked my subconscious mind to move any of my fingers nothing happened. I have tried this many times. I have tried to make images and emotion lol but my fingers are still not moving.
      lol, it sounds as if you're trying to give your subconcious the role of seperate entity/poltergeist. I don't think it works like that friend =/
      Things are not as they seem

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      Yeah i wonder the same thing do you guys really hear voice. It's wierd I don't get any vioce from my subconscious mind even if im in alpha or theta state.
      I have two very different experiences, and I'm not sure if they're from different sources, or from the same source received in different ways....

      The first happens mostly when I'm in meditation, but also sometimes when I'm trying to work something out - this is like having a conversation with myself in my own head, but things are said that I wouldn't have thought of. I also use the 3,2,1 method to find things I've lost. I ask my subconscious to help me find whatever it is, and I see myself holding it saying "I found it!". Most of the time, the following day I'll go to the place where it is, and find it

      The second thing that happens is litterally a voice that sounds distinctly like someone else - outside of me speaks in my ear. Now this doesn't happen often at all. And so far, usually when it does, the word or phrase doesn't make any sense or is out of context at the time.
      This happens sometimes just before sleep or just before waking, but also during the day. That one's really quite wierd! As I say, not often though, and seldom makes sense.

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      Ok guys. I have now tried different ways to communicate with my subconscious mind. The thing now is that i don't get any respond from my subconscious mind. Is it mayby im a bad translator? I'm relaxed when I'm doing this (alpha state).
      So i wonder now how do the subconscious mind respond to you? Sending you a image, feeling or is he talking to you?

      Here is some articles i have tried:
      http://psipog.net/art-subtle-subc-ripples.html
      http://psipog.net/art-images-with-subc.html
      http://psipog.net/art-communicating-with-subc.html

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      Quote Originally Posted by loikan View Post
      Yeah i wonder the same thing do you guys really hear voice. It's wierd I don't get any vioce from my subconscious mind even if im in alpha or theta state.
      I asked my subconscious mind to move any of my fingers nothing happened. I have tried this many times. I have tried to make images and emotion lol but my fingers are still not moving.
      wave your hand in front of you, your subconscious just did that. what you don't realize is that your subconscious is you and pretty much every thing you do is a joint effort.even reading this right now takes your subconscious to be capable of. now when you talk to your subconscious your actually just thinking deeply and clearly and the translating is what makes it seem like a different person in you

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      Quote Originally Posted by loikan View Post
      Ok guys. I have now tried different ways to communicate with my subconscious mind. The thing now is that i don't get any respond from my subconscious mind. Is it mayby im a bad translator? I'm relaxed when I'm doing this (alpha state).
      So i wonder now how do the subconscious mind respond to you? Sending you a image, feeling or is he talking to you?

      Here is some articles i have tried:
      http://psipog.net/art-subtle-subc-ripples.html
      http://psipog.net/art-images-with-subc.html
      http://psipog.net/art-communicating-with-subc.html
      your subconscious is always talking to you, it is very likely that it actually did respond and you herd it, but you mistook it for your own thoughts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by loikan View Post
      Yeah i wonder the same thing do you guys really hear voice. It's wierd I don't get any vioce from my subconscious mind even if im in alpha or theta state.
      I had a startling experience some time ago, not sure how to categorize it;
      Was coming awake one morning - no longer dreaming, not quite awake - when I heard a voice in my head. I 'knew' that it was the voice of God, which was suprising enough to me but God had a woman's voice which suprised me even more. Bear in mind I fall somewhere between athiest and I-don't-know. She asked me this simple question; "What are you doing?".

      Now just imagine God asking you this. It kinda puts you on the spot! Coming from God it's the ultimate existential question. I stammered a bit trying to come up with a suitable answer and then woke up.

      Do I really think I was hearing the Voice of God? It doesn't matter how I define the questioner. What matters is the question and my answer to it. I think I will be answering it for the rest of my life.

      So in answer to your question; yes. I for one have heard a voice, clear and succinct, speaking from within, and I'm reasonably sure it was from my - I was going to say subconscious but I think I shoud say - superconscious.

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      Yes that was probably your spirit guide speaking to you.
      Currently practicing WILD. I quote Kaniaz who said it best: "The point of WILD is to piss me off". Though, I have not given up, far from it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by illusions View Post
      What a great thread!

      I came across a meditation method recently, for accessing the subconscious, called the 3,2,1 method - I don't know if anyone's heard of it?

      It's very simple, you just relax of course, with eyes closed, then take a deep breath, and as you exhale, see (and say in your mind) the number 3 three times, then relax from scalp all the way down your body. Then do the same with the number 2. Then see a tranquil scene. Then do the same with the number 1, and then count backwards from 10 to 1, which takes you deeper, slowing your brainwaves.

      Right then, you are able to communicate with your subconscious (if you're still conscious lol - it took me a while to do this and still be a awake when I reached 1 )

      I've found it Fabulous
      Do you have a source for this technique, I'm really interested in reading further about it. I tried a google search but the best I could find was
      http://www.wyntk.us/food/3-2-1-rib-method.shtml D:

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      Quote Originally Posted by Camels, Candles, Castles. View Post
      Do you have a source for this technique, I'm really interested in reading further about it. I tried a google search but the best I could find was
      http://www.wyntk.us/food/3-2-1-rib-method.shtml D:


      I got it from the Remote Viewing Course I ordered from http://www.ultramind.ws/ The 3-2-1 method is the meditation to get into the state where you can remote view, and there's a lot of information on the CDs for remote viewing - the course is very good. But I haven't really done the remote viewing part so much, I use it mostly to relax, and to ask for guidance.

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      Wow! I didn't see all the new posts. Glad to see others are interested.

      For starters, your subconscious most basic communication is the "Gut feeling" you get about somthing or someone. Like on a multiple choice test, the correct answer is usually your gut instinct which some people call intuition.

      Try doing a simple form of meditation and say something like "Subconscious, say something wise." Just let words flow from your mind and see what they say.

      For example, I just asked my subconscious AKA "Mike," and he said: "Everytime your tired, it's because your not sleeping." My problem is figuring out what comes from my concscious mind and what comes from my subconscious. It's interesting stuff either way.

      Try asking questions like "What is love?" You can get cool answers with that too.

      Making your subconscious a "voice in your head" isn't easy for everyone. I haven't gotten it yet but I'm getting closer and it's a lot of fun getting there.
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      ->Listen to a song I've got memorized in waking life.
      ->Find my dream guide.
      ->Fly around with and idol of mine, Thom Yorke (Lead singer of Radiohead) [TOTM]
      ->Find a pegasus, tame, and fly it. [TOTM]
      ->Brownie camera [TOTY]

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      Ok something happened last night befor i went to sleep. I asked my subconscious mind some questions. Nothing happened, after a while I got a lot of pictures or images. But none of the pictures was answer to my questions. MMhh I wonder if it can be my subconscious mind. I have to almost sleep to get something from my subconscious mind.

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      Try a simple form of meditation. Do it while sitting on the ground with your back straight so you don't fall asleep.
      CURRENT LUCID GOALS (LD's: 34) (Raised by Moonbeam)
      ->Listen to a song I've got memorized in waking life.
      ->Find my dream guide.
      ->Fly around with and idol of mine, Thom Yorke (Lead singer of Radiohead) [TOTM]
      ->Find a pegasus, tame, and fly it. [TOTM]
      ->Brownie camera [TOTY]

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      ive had a theory, if you can communicate with your subconsius can your subconcious communicate with anothers subconcious, like talking to them but without speaking


      Such a shame this has to end, things are out of his command.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The_one_920 View Post
      ive had a theory, if you can communicate with your subconsius can your subconcious communicate with anothers subconcious, like talking to them but without speaking
      Absolutely!! The Subconscious is conected to the Collective, or Matrix. That is how Remote Viewing works as well.

      If person W. wants a red Fiesta, and Person A. has a red Fiesta they want to sell....
      Person A.'s subconscious mind will put the information out into the Collective - the information of the car, and the desire to sell it.

      Meanwhile, Person W.'s subconscious is combing the Collective for a red Fiesta in that geographical area, at the price etc.

      The message from A.'s SubC. will be picked up by W.'s and visa-versa.

      Each person's subconscious will then try to get the message through to the conscious mind - not easy

      Person A. may suddenly get side-tracked from something they're doing, in some way (may even find it frustrating), and somehow it may lead to an idea to put an ad in a local shop window. Person W. may get a sudden urge for donuts, and pop into the shop to buy some. You can see where this is going...... Person W. "happens" upon Person A.'s shop ad and....... there's a "coincidence" or synchronicity

      As for actual conversations, this is absolutely possible. I believe we already do this, but not necessarily with awareness.

      The challenge comes in quieting the conscious mind enough to allow clear communication through, and learning to tell the difference between your own conscious thoughts, and the information coming from the subconscious. But of course, with practice, this would become easier and more reliable.

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      I've been pm'ing JulianKC52 about this very thing. He recently has established communication with his subconscious and I asked him to ask his subconscious about me. It said 2 extremely personal and very accurate things about me. I'm still a skeptic though because I'm a bit of a realist but It's definetely convincing.
      CURRENT LUCID GOALS (LD's: 34) (Raised by Moonbeam)
      ->Listen to a song I've got memorized in waking life.
      ->Find my dream guide.
      ->Fly around with and idol of mine, Thom Yorke (Lead singer of Radiohead) [TOTM]
      ->Find a pegasus, tame, and fly it. [TOTM]
      ->Brownie camera [TOTY]

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      Subconscious communication . . .

      I have experienced communicating with my subconscious or higher self. I don't actually "hear" a voice, but the answer comes into my mind . . . more like a thought answer (if this makes sense!) . . . The first experience I had with this was with an energy medicine practitioner. I had never been to one before and was trying to get an answer to a health question. She "asked" my subconscious/higher-self focusing on each chakra, what my body needed . . . it was amazing how when she asked these questions an answer came into my mind, but it wasn't coming FROM me. I can't recall exactly what the true answers were, but it was something like she asked what was needed for my "heart chakra" and a word would come into my mind like "understanding" (this isn't actually the answers, etc., because this was several years ago and I can't remember exactly) and she told me whatever came into my mind say outloud . . . then she would ask my "third eye" chakra, etc. I kept having these words come into my mind . . . answers to questions that weren't MY answers. It was amazing and strange. It wasn't like I was making up the answers either . . . they definitely weren't coming from me!
      All that we see or seem, is but a dream within a dream . . . Edgar Allen Poe

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      Quote Originally Posted by Phalangees View Post
      I've been pm'ing JulianKC52 about this very thing. He recently has established communication with his subconscious and I asked him to ask his subconscious about me. It said 2 extremely personal and very accurate things about me. I'm still a skeptic though because I'm a bit of a realist but It's definetely convincing.
      omg, i thought it may be something real, stupid time after finishing science test with help of subconsious, THANKYOU!


      Such a shame this has to end, things are out of his command.

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      When I speak to my subconscious, I see words come into my mind's eye. On the very rare occasion I can see them in my normal frame of vision, but I've asked it some of the questions posted here.

      I asked it 'What is your name'

      the words I saw were 'names aren't important. Why do you feel the compulsion to give me a name, since I am a part of you?' *actually, I've forgotten the EXACT words, but it's pretty darn close*

      Next I asked 'Why can't I lucid dream as much anymore?'

      the answer 'you're trying to do something you can already do. You're trying too hard, too.'

      I asked it some other questions, but these are the only relevant ones to this forum.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tokyo_kurikinton View Post
      When I speak to my subconscious, I see words come into my mind's eye. On the very rare occasion I can see them in my normal frame of vision, but I've asked it some of the questions posted here.

      I asked it 'What is your name'

      the words I saw were 'names aren't important. Why do you feel the compulsion to give me a name, since I am a part of you?' *actually, I've forgotten the EXACT words, but it's pretty darn close*

      Next I asked 'Why can't I lucid dream as much anymore?'

      the answer 'you're trying to do something you can already do. You're trying too hard, too.'

      I asked it some other questions, but these are the only relevant ones to this forum.
      i see words, and there just words, my friend knew someone, but didnt say their name... so i asked my subconsious

      BAM!
      came up with their name


      Such a shame this has to end, things are out of his command.

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      After reading Chapter 25 of his book, I would trust almost everything Robert Peterson says. His Deja Vu accounts are the closest thing I've found to my most startling Deja Vu experiences. I found his description so believable and so aligned with my own that I've started to read his OBE book with the goal of proving to myself once and for all whether OBEs are just WILDs or whether they are something completely different. I haven't had an OBE yet so can't say for sure whether they are just lucid dreams or not. I'm sure that if I induced an OBE I would know whether it was a dream or not. After keeping a dream journal for such a long time you learn to recognise the substance of dreams.

      I read somewhere else (can't remember the author's name now) about a technique called CDT or Consciousness Deepening Technique. This technique makes complete sense to me. I've started trying it out myself a few weeks ago and hopefully I'm starting to lower my borderline between the conscious and subconscious mind. The goal is to eventually remain conscious while entering the subconscious realm. Supposedly when you remain conscious and have theta brainwaves it becomes a matter of simply willing yourself to leave your body. If you become good enough at the CDT you can remain conscious right down to the delta brainwaves, at which point you are automatically expelled from you body. - Sounds like it's worth trying.

      It would be a lot easier if I had one of those portable brainwave monitors with the bluetooth transmitter.

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      Hi Dream Seal

      It sounds Fascinating!! Are you able to share the technique with us here? I'd love to have a go

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      Hello

      A good website i found is www.thegeniewithin.net

      It's interesting you say your subconscious communicated to you with writing. What colour was the writing? was it golden?

      I think the subconscious could be another word for "God". But it seems to depend upon being open to this possibility otherwise subconscious intuition is subject to error or the laws of chance. I know that i have had dreams that later came true and i experience synchronicities every day several times and when they happen they have a different feeling accompanying them which certainly does not seem like chance.

      Another good book is Second Sight by Dr Judith Orloff. I recently got this and it is pretty good. She mixes psychiatry with psychic ability. She also has a few interesting video clips on Youtube.

      The key seems to be to enter the hypnagogic state and remain there. This would be a "superconscious" state. If you could bring this state into your waking moments or develop the intuition you could enhance your life a thousand-fold.

      I think the books "conversations with God" are the subconscious of author Neale Donald Walsch. However, since the subconscious controls the life force in the body it has an intelligence of its own which differs from our conscious mind and i think this intelligence is God. So when you are communicating with your subconscious it seems like you are talking to yourself because you are part of God. Make sense?

      Any meditation technique will do to get to the hypnagogic state - it doesn't matter which one. The key is to remain aware when you get there. This is where it gets interesting. if you can "pray", ask a simple question when you get there you might just get the answer.

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      Thanks a lot for the links! This is fascinating!
      While there is a lower class, I am in it.
      While there is a criminal element, I am of it.
      While there is a soul in prison, I am not free.
      -Eugene V. Debs

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