Thread: Succumbi

poem doesnt seem significant :/ i was thinkin it would be like a occult spirit summoning spell or somthing

It seems significant to me. It must mean something important if it re-appeared. I won't even pretend to have a clue what it's supposed to mean though. Have you tried taking pictures of the house?

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

poem doesnt seem significant :/ i was thinkin it would be like a occult spirit summoning spell or somthing

Don't get me wrong... there are plenty of pentagrams, 666's, and "Hail Satan"s all around the place. Pictures of "her" are also everywhere, with very sexual and promiscuous overtones.

Originally Posted by Rainman

It seems significant to me. It must mean something important if it re-appeared. I won't even pretend to have a clue what it's supposed to mean though. Have you tried taking pictures of the house?

I agree... it must have something to do with "her..."

I've actually went there a few times with an infrared camcorder. I caught some interesting anomalies...

ever think if trying to find a paranormal expert to visit it? it might give more credability to the events.

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

ever think if trying to find a paranormal expert to visit it? it might give more credability to the events.

I thought about that, sure... Ghost Hunters or something. Ha ha... but if you think about it, I don't really need anyone to visit to add credibility, for my benefit. And then even if I got them to visit for your benefit, I couldn't prove that they actually ever visited at all.

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

ever think if trying to find a paranormal expert to visit it? it might give more credability to the events.

I would not dare if it were a real paranormal event....there would be too many tourists coming to my town.

Yeah. That's probably true. You really don't want something like this getting popular. Stupid people would wanna be around it all the time and try to make it an attraction.

i can see it now...

STEP RIGHT UP.. GET RAPED BY A DEMON... ONLY 10$

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

i can see it now...

STEP RIGHT UP.. GET RAPED BY A DEMON... ONLY 10$

Lonely people do strange things =P.

Surrealist, you HAVE to post more of these when they (have) happen(ed). These are extremely interesting to me, as they sound like Dr Who episodes, and I love that show. (I'm saying they're Dr. Who style, not saying you stole the ideas - I believe your tales). Where is this house at which all this is happening?

Originally Posted by Jambo6c

Surrealist, you HAVE to post more of these when they (have) happen(ed). These are extremely interesting to me, as they sound like Dr Who episodes, and I love that show. (I'm saying they're Dr. Who style, not saying you stole the ideas - I believe your tales). Where is this house at which all this is happening?

Well, there is one more experience that has happened since the last one posted. I just haven't posted it yet, because it would obviously be the most unbelievable one of all. Posting stories like this just gets you labeled as a weak-minded fool, believing in anything without adequate evidence and throwing yourself headlong into a belief founded on subjective experiences which are only tricking you into believing that they are paranormal in nature. At least, that's what I've gathered from what the skeptics on here have said.

It's funny that you mentioned the show Doctor Who, because I really love that show. And while I can see the correlations between episodes of that show and my own experiences, I did not get any inspiration from them... seeing as how these were unadulterated, un-exaggerated, true stories.

The four houses (it's a group of them) are just the cement husks of them, left behind in the middle of the desert for what seems like decades. They all have multiple rooms, but the doorways and windows are just holes in the cement. Graffiti abounds everywhere... pictures of "her", Satanic drawings and many, many strange and scary poems and sayings. Every square inch of available cement is covered in it.

They are located in Palmdale, CA... about a mile from the main road. One must drive down a twisted, rough dirt road the whole way there, until you finally make it to a small, deep valley. There's even an old water tower there, left behind and since totally dried up. At night, you can see the main road far off, and houses up on the top of the hills surrounding the valley.


EDIT:
But here is the last experience... I'll post it just to get it out of my head. It's been haunting me for quite awhile.

So my friends all decided to throw another party there. I warned them that there was going to be too many people there, and something could conceivably happen with "it," but they wouldn't hear of that... since none of them believed in it.

There were about twenty different people there. We started a fire in the abandoned fireplace, brought out the Jack and Bacardi... and began having a good time. It wasn't even twenty minutes before they noticed that someone was missing. We'll call him J.

We all began searching for him... imagine twenty or so people all scouring a place only a half-acre big, looking for one person. No one could find him anywhere. The searching went on for a good 20-30 minutes.

They all were getting extremely worried for him, and people started mentioning the "ghost". I tried to tell people that it was the demon(or succubus), but everyone ignored me. There were a few people following me around who believed what I said, but only because they were there the other times.

Well, I figured enough searching was done already, and that "she" must've had him. I went over to the window that D originally crouched down at and looked into. I crouched and spoke to "her". I told her, "You had better give me my friend back. Bring him back to us, now."

Right after I stood up after saying this, I started to hear a commotion from the other side of the house. They had found him, right in the middle of everybody... he just kind of "showed up," and everyone noticed him just sitting there all of a sudden.

Well, he was there, crying with his head in his hands. Everyone gathered around him, and that's when it started. He began convulsing... crying, shaking like he was having a seizure, and mumbling incoherent things that sounded like a foreign language.

There were a group of "wiccans" there... and one person all told them to go try and help him. They also put a really buff guy to send everyone away besides the wiccans. I thought this was a stupid idea, seeing as how wiccans couldn't help them, and I knew that.

Everyone that was following me around now kept telling me that I could help him, that I knew how. They were also saying that they wished L was there, since he could help as well. For some reason, I also knew I could help him... I just did. Ever since the first experience, I began practicing energy manipulation and had gotten pretty good with it... maybe that's why it is afraid of me.

Anyways, I approached the big guard-like guy, and asked if I could go try and help. He said "No man, sorry, but I'm not supposed to let anyone through here... they are trying to help him now, and they know what they are doing." I just rolled my eyes and walked away.

This thrashing, convulsing, and incoherent mumbling went on for another good 20 minutes. The "wiccan group" was getting desperate; they had no idea how to save him or help him, and they didn't know why they were failing so miserably.

One of the friends that was following me around, one who had gotten progressively more and more pissed ever since it started happening, decided that it was about time to let me try. He walked up to the guy and said, "This is Nick, he knows what to do probably more than those wiccans... I have seen some of the things he has done, and I can tell you that he definitely can help J."

The guard guy says he'll go check, then comes back and says that they'll let me try.

I approach J and tell them all to back the fuck off. I told them all to leave him and me alone. They did as I asked, and then it was just us two, with him still in the throes of his seizure/demonic possession. I stood over him, with my palm outwardly facing him, and said, "J, please hear me, heed what I say, and come back to your body. Here it is, came back to us."

He instantly stopped convulsing. He stood up ever so slowly, and bowed his head down. I told him to look me in the eyes... I could see part of it in him... very freaky. I told him, however much of him was in there, that he could fight it... all it took was his will be strong enough to resist. He nodded... and seemed to come to a little more. He never did speak though, which kind of freaked me out.

People started noticing that he was standing again and started to come over. I told them to stay away, that I wasn't finished yet. They didn't listen though and still were walking over. I knew I had little time left.

I asked J, "Were you just somewhere else, like a place that's hard for you to describe?" He nodded.
"Did you see 'her', the beautiful lady?" He nodded.
"Did she want to take you somewhere, like she wanted you to follow?" He nodded.
"Did you try and resist following her, so she got mad at you?" He nodded.

I then told him, since the other people were almost there, "Alright... no one has to know that you saw anything crazy. Just tell everyone that you got a little too drunk and passed out. And then when they found you that you started freaking out because you wanted everyone off of you. Understand?" He nodded.

The other people arrived, and one of his good friends comes over and asks if he wants to leave. He nodded. They both got in a car and drove off.

Get this though... right after he drove away, another girl just falls to the floor and starts going through the same things J went through. Again they didn't let me try and help. Again it was 10 minutes or so before they let me try, and again it was me who ended up being able to bring her back. The weird thing is, with her eyes closed since I approached and my hand above her head... she says, "I can feel your energy flowing in through my head... it's strong, and good... give me more."

I guess that's what eventually got her better, cause a few seconds after she said that, she sat up and was sort of fine again. Just like J, she started talking in other languages, but one of them I recognized as Latin. She was saying something about God(deus). Freaked me the hell out.

After a few more minutes, the party just kind of died and everybody left.

Several things.

Posting stories like this just gets you labeled as a weak-minded fool, believing in anything without adequate evidence and throwing yourself headlong into a belief founded on subjective experiences which are only tricking you into believing that they are paranormal in nature. At least, that's what I've gathered from what the skeptics on here have said.

Stop saying that. If you post something with the mindset that people will attack you for it or not believe you, then they will. Always. It is true that there are always people that will be crude to believers anyway, but to assume and expect that they will only makes it more true. Exclude negativity from your future posts, and the results may not change, but if they do, they will change for the better. Saying things like what I quoted you on shows that you are unsure about your own post. That's not healthy. Always say everything you mean with clarity and certainty if you expect people to believe you.

Which leads me to my next "thing". I would like to start by saying that I do believe your story. Or elements of it. I believe you altered parts of it out of excitement at what happened. I do believe it happened, I just think you may have added some things.

I do not mean to offend you, and apologize preemptively if I do, but I think you like the idea of this thing being afraid of you, and even if it is, I think you are making that out to be more than it is, which is why I do not believe that you actually commanded her to reveal your friend. I believe that you added that because you were excited about what happened and wanted it to seem more intense (and I'm sure it was very intense anyway).

I also do not believe the bit about you reviving your friend in the manner with which you described. I'm not saying I don't believe you revived him, I'm saying I don't think it was quite like that. I think it was more likely that once you made contact with him, he came too. I don't believe the bit about the guard either. Too cliche-storylike. That part gave itself away as not true, or not true in the way you told it.

Whether or not you added things, I believe in some way your recount of the story is different than what actually happened. Again, my intention is not to offend you, as I said before, I believe your story, just not certain parts of it. My expectation is that you will get very defensive, which is fine, but ultimately, you know if what I'm saying is accurate or not. And whether or not I am right, YOU know what really happened, and you don't need to prove that to anyone. So if you are adding things, and don't admit it, no one will care. The only person you'd be lying to is yourself. (If you did add stuff.)

Just keep that in mind.

EDIT - Is this in a desert in America? It sounds an incredibly freaky experience. I will concede that some of it does seem farfetched, but still I dont think untrue.

An idea I'd like to see - take a camera, and if some shit happens next time you're there photograph what you can of 'it'

wow. you like to waste a long time making up lies. you should write novels.

Originally Posted by Michael

wow. you like to waste a long time making up lies. you should write novels.

Oh damn, faking shad up michael. This guy is sharing what he believes is true. I hate people who rule out an idea or an event that has taken place, because there own theorys dont let them take in the concept. Once you have proof that he made them up, then you can start posting. But until then, if you arent posting something to help the thread starter, or if you are posting something to in-correctly accuse someone of a false post, just shut up.

Originally Posted by Rainman

Which leads me to my next "thing". I would like to start by saying that I do believe your story. Or elements of it. I believe you altered parts of it out of excitement at what happened. I do believe it happened, I just think you may have added some things.

Which is why I told you that you wouldn't believe this story... remember where I said, "Not even you, Rainman"? I believe this correlates especially well with what you are trying to say in this post.

Originally Posted by Rainman

I do not mean to offend you, and apologize preemptively if I do, but I think you like the idea of this thing being afraid of you, and even if it is, I think you are making that out to be more than it is, which is why I do not believe that you actually commanded her to reveal your friend. I believe that you added that because you were excited about what happened and wanted it to seem more intense (and I'm sure it was very intense anyway).

Nope... I actually commanded it to do exactly what I said in my post. But of course, you can believe I'm making that part up... it's your right to do so, I guess. It's just... I don't need to exaggerate when telling this story... it tells itself. It happened exactly like I told it, nothing more or less.

Originally Posted by Rainman

I also do not believe the bit about you reviving your friend in the manner with which you described. I'm not saying I don't believe you revived him, I'm saying I don't think it was quite like that. I think it was more likely that once you made contact with him, he came too. I don't believe the bit about the guard either. Too cliche-storylike. That part gave itself away as not true, or not true in the way you told it.

Again... it happened exactly like I told it. I stood over him, with my palm above his forehead, and said that. While it might seem to you that I'm making it up to try and make myself seem cooler, I'm not. I realize that a great many people alive today like to exaggerate or add things to their stories to make it seem cool, or more exciting, but that's not how I work. What could I possibly get from trying to brag about myself on these forums besides ridicule? I'm a very analytical person, and I just can't, for the life of me, come up with a good reason to lie on this forum.

The guard? Too cliche-storylike? Whatever man... think what you will.

Originally Posted by Rainman

Whether or not you added things, I believe in some way your recount of the story is different than what actually happened. Again, my intention is not to offend you, as I said before, I believe your story, just not certain parts of it. My expectation is that you will get very defensive, which is fine, but ultimately, you know if what I'm saying is accurate or not. And whether or not I am right, YOU know what really happened, and you don't need to prove that to anyone. So if you are adding things, and don't admit it, no one will care. The only person you'd be lying to is yourself. (If you did add stuff.)

My recount of all the stories was entirely accurate. What I find funny is that you'd believe all that I've said before, but when I tell this last story, and exactly how it happened, you have trouble believing that I did what I said I did... how is that?

Sure, I'll roll with what you said... it does make me sound buffer. It does make me seem strong in these things, and I could entirely see your point of view that I could just be making it up to make myself seem all tough and whatnot.

The part where you said "YOU know what really happened... The only person you'd be lying to is yourself..." just shows me how unwilling you are to even entertain that it indeed happened. You believe wholeheartedly that it didn't happen like I told it, so much so that you'd tell me that I'm only lying to myself. It's alright really... I'm not getting defensive, since there is nothing to defend (almost everybody on this board doesn't believe me anyway).

And obviously there is nothing I can say which would prove to you that I'm not lying. There is no point to this conversation... as far as I'm concerned, I could never talk to you again, and I'd be perfectly fine.


On a side note... I did go up there again tonight, and some crazy crap happened again. Of course, like I would even post it now, seeing as how the "believer" doesn't even believe my last story. I even got photographic "proof" as well, just as Jambo6c suggested.

Originally Posted by Michael

wow. you like to waste a long time making up lies. you should write novels.

And you should be a novel critic. Congrats to your future career.

My recount of all the stories was entirely accurate. What I find funny is that you'd believe all that I've said before, but when I tell this last story, and exactly how it happened, you have trouble believing that I did what I said I did... how is that?

Surrealist, I study the human mind. That is what I do. Even through text, it is possible to pick up on behavioural patterns of people based on what they say, and what they have said in the past in relation to it, and accurately predict the validity of it's content.

More often than not, people that experience something unusual and exciting will alter elements of their experience in the retelling of the story. Generally, it is very transparent and easy to tell what parts of the story are added or altered.

just shows me how unwilling you are to even entertain that it indeed happened. You believe wholeheartedly that it didn't happen like I told it, so much so that you'd tell me that I'm only lying to myself.

Don't be foolish. Just because I show some slight disbelief in the complete accuracy of your story does not mean that I am "unwilling to even entertain the idea that it happened", or that I "wholeheartedly believe that it didn't happen like I told it". I also never said that you are lying to yourself, I said IF you did add elements you are lying to yourself.

Again, you get defensive when people question your story. Do not put words in my mouth, I said none of the things that you accuse me of feeling or saying. Read more carefully. I said I doubt or disbelieve certain parts of your story, and again you get all defensive saying that I "wholeheartedly" disbelieve everything you're saying. Me saying that only you know what really happened was a defense on your part, so take the stick out of your ass. You get way too defensive when people don't believe you, which is another very common psychological red flag telling me that either A- you are an extremely insecure person, or B- something I said struck a nerve. This is true of almost all people. When someone questions the validity of another's story, and the person becomes overly defensive, it is most likely that something the questioner said was accurate.

Hopefully you will not accuse me of saying or believing things I never said (and actually was very careful not to say, and you still missed the point) and stop being so defensive. What's it to you if people don't believe you anyway? And I went out of my way several times to say that I do believe you. Calm down.

Originally Posted by Ahhchuu

im sure nothingness is better than hell... and im sure them succubi send u to hell because i know gods divine beings wouldn't do that to one of his own inocent creations.

i was told sometime ago that if your raped you lose your soul. it may be a metaphor but collecting souls gives you power and along with power theres greed.

Cute, but I hope you don't mind me saying...that sounds like some stuff 16th century superstitious people would say. Succubi and Inccubi demons having sex with people or raping them in their sleep sounds a bit farfetch'd to me...the old hag sitting on your chest during sleep paralysis sounds a bit more believable than that.

Originally Posted by Surrealist

I even got photographic "proof" as well, just as Jambo6c suggested.

Fancy posting that here? A) to satisfy those who are interested, and B) to shut up closed-minded imbosils like Michael

Originally Posted by Rainman

Surrealist, I study the human mind. That is what I do. Even through text, it is possible to pick up on behavioural patterns of people based on what they say, and what they have said in the past in relation to it, and accurately predict the validity of it's content.

More often than not, people that experience something unusual and exciting will alter elements of their experience in the retelling of the story. Generally, it is very transparent and easy to tell what parts of the story are added or altered.

Exactly... more often than not. There are people that stay truthful even in the retelling of the events. Kind of like me...

Originally Posted by Rainman

Don't be foolish. Just because I show some slight disbelief in the complete accuracy of your story does not mean that I am "unwilling to even entertain the idea that it happened", or that I "wholeheartedly believe that it didn't happen like I told it". I also never said that you are lying to yourself, I said IF you did add elements you are lying to yourself.

Exactly... but I'm telling you that I don't need that warning, because I know I'm not lying to myself.

Originally Posted by Rainman

You get way too defensive when people don't believe you, which is another very common psychological red flag telling me that either A- you are an extremely insecure person, or B- something I said struck a nerve. This is true of almost all people. When someone questions the validity of another's story, and the person becomes overly defensive, it is most likely that something the questioner said was accurate.

Or it could be just that I experienced something utterly crazy, and it gets me agitated knowing that absolutely no single person will ever believe my whole story. I say whole, because you don't believe some parts, and you are even a believer yourself. It gets me defensive because I feel like I'm trying to defend my sanity. Here you are trying to tell me that some deep, psychological method of some sort has caused me to unconsciously add things to my story? Don't you see why I get defensive? It's not cause you are right, but because you are so wrong, and insulting my intelligence at the same time.

Originally Posted by Rainman

What's it to you if people don't believe you anyway? And I went out of my way several times to say that I do believe you. Calm down.

I really don't care if people believe me or not...

The problem I had with your theories is that they only worked if I purposefully exaggerated my story to make it seem more interesting, or to make me seem cooler. This is really a big slap in the face. I hope you see that.

You went out of your way to say you believed me... but not the whole story. Some parts you don't believe.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Jeff777

Cute, but I hope you don't mind me saying...that sounds like some stuff 16th century superstitious people would say. Succubi and Inccubi demons having sex with people or raping them in their sleep sounds a bit farfetch'd to me...the old hag sitting on your chest during sleep paralysis sounds a bit more believable than that.

Forgive me if your only talking about dream phenomenon here, but my stories have absolutely nothing to do with sleep. Not trying to pry here, but just thought that maybe he was talking about a "real" day-time, non-dream succubus, and you were replying back thinking he was talking about the "old hag..." two vastly different things.

Originally Posted by Jambo6c

Fancy posting that here? A) to satisfy those who are interested, and B) to shut up closed-minded imbosils like Michael

I will when I can upload them somewhere... attaching them here requires me to shrink them, and you might lose a lot.

Just felt like it.

Sandform wins.

I really don't care if people believe me or not...

Obviously that's bullshit, or you wouldn't waste time trying to defend yourself so intensely when someone challenges your experience, and post little disclaimers and warnings saying in the beginning of some of your posts trying to assure us that it really happened.

Originally Posted by Rainman

Sandform wins.

Whats the prize? =)

Originally Posted by Rainman

Sandform wins.



Obviously that's bullshit, or you wouldn't waste time trying to defend yourself so intensely when someone challenges your experience, and post little disclaimers and warnings saying in the beginning of some of your posts trying to assure us that it really happened.

Dude... you're obviously so good analyzing people over text in a forum, that you've entered my inner mind and peeked into my thoughts. Ouch, my thoughts have betrayed me... I've made this all up... it's all fake.

But you know, whatever... Sandform wins... but wins what is the true question. I tend to think that he is just winning a massive mindgame, and that is all. All this turned out to be was a freakin' flame-war, with Rainman and Sandform being the instigators. Congrats, Rainman... it couldn't have been done without you.

I mean, technically you've proved nothing... according to your bullshit about "psychology" and that because of your intensive study of the human mind, then I must be full of it. Think about it... you've won nothing except for being the second forum to blast my story into oblivion.

I just try and share these things because I feel alone in that I might be the only person to actually experience something like this. Then to post them up here and them get attacked by even a paranormally-inclined individual gives my theory more credence. This all results in me just saying screw it... I won't even post the pictures, or anything. Even the thing that happened last night. It doesn't matter anymore, really. People on here just like reading these kinds of posts to get a good laugh... so screw it.