Very Strange

[Digital.Totem]

Has anyone ever had a dream, lucid or not, where you were injured and actually had physical evidence of the injury on your body. Usually a red rash in the area lasting a few minutes or a light bruise will develop soon after waking. I've had this studied in a sleep clinic and the video shows me perfectly still and waking up with a large greenish bruise on my shoulder. They said it was like the stigmata you think it so hard your body does what you mind thinks. But why can my dreams do that to me when I usually have such strong control over them.

[Vegan]

Thats really interesting, though its happened to me on a smaller scale ( just a reddish rash), it seems that maybe it would be like the whole stigmata thing. What did they tell you at the clinic? Besides thinking about it so hard made it happen.

[Keiju]

"But why can my dreams do that to me when I usually have such strong control over them." the fact that you are gaining so much control is maybe causing it? its becoming more and more "real", external and internal are self reinforcing, and the fact that you have now proved to yourself that you can be "physically" hurt, will reinforce it further... dont know if its good or bad lol, on one hand your gaining control of your dreams and you can have so much fun, on the other the more control you gain the more serious the consequences become, your intensifying the pleasure... but also intensifying the pain o.O cant have one without the other,

[Da_bomb143]

I have been thinking about this, or at least a similar thing for a while. Perhaps that it happened in the dream is the reason for it? if your not aware u are dreaming, then u obviously believe that what you experience, what you feel, touch, see etc. is real. Perhaps your brain has been tricked into believing that what has happened is in fact real. It might be similar to real cuts and such in real life. For example, sometimes i don't know that i have been hurt until i see the wound for myself. I am not sure if this has any similarities to what you are describing, but i am just exploring this. Also, stigmata is most likely linked to this.

[Sanzora]

Took the picture to ask a friend about it... dreamt of sword training the night, woke up with this in the morning: Spoiler for Cut: I would say I knocked myself somewhere, but I had a deskjob at the time, and this was on my arm sorta where my arm rests against my side... Not gonna fight or try to convince anyone. But that is my response to the original question. Take it as you wish.

[Hazel]

Maybe the dream was caused by some external stimuli, and the thing outside your dream is what hurt you. For example, say that a spider was biting you while you were sleeping, it might simultaneously cause you to dream about something similar happening.

[wer]

Has anyone ever had a dream, lucid or not, where you were injured and actually had physical evidence of the injury on your body. Usually a red rash in the area lasting a few minutes or a light bruise will develop soon after waking. I've had this studied in a sleep clinic and the video shows me perfectly still and waking up with a large greenish bruise on my shoulder. They said it was like the stigmata you think it so hard your body does what you mind thinks. But why can my dreams do that to me when I usually have such strong control over them. I've had similar things happen, but I've never actually woken up with an injury or bruise. One time I had a dream where I ground my teeth so bad that they shattered, and for a split second after I woke up it felt like they were in terrible pain. As for the cause... the folks at the dream clinic nailed it on the head.

[kingofclutch]

Yes. Once I had a dream that there was a car crash and my neck got all messed up and broken. Then I woke up and it hurt for a while. I think my neck was in a bad position in my bed so it was hurting so my brain made a dream around it.

[Aryaxon]

Iv'e had to incidents like this that i can remember altho i dont think i had any "viewable" after effects. The first time was when i was dreaming i was on a trampolene. At one point i dedcided to jump of but i put to much spring into it and went up quite high. when i hit the ground, pain shot up my legs and i woke up but the pain stayed remained (not like the kind of pain a cramp gives). The second time involved me at a pier near a beach and for some strange reason sharks were jumping up and smashing through the boards of the pier trying to get me. For a while i was able to just avoid them but inevitably on came up directly beneath me and knocked me over. While i was down on the boards it clamped me painfully right across my belly with its mouth. This caused me to wake up. The strange bit was even when i had woken up fully i could still feel a slight pian in the shape of where the shark had got me.

[Shark Rider]

This happened to me once too! I dreamed I got bitten by some kind of shadow. And i had this redish mark on my arm when i woke up. But here's how i explain it. When you sleep you're in a SP! So when you heart yourself while sleeping, for example if you hit your arm against a wall, you brain will try to fit this in your dream. There's other dreams from the exact same kind. When for example you touch something in your dream. You feel the thing you touch. It feels like real. It's actually you, touching your desk while asleep but your brain will tend to fit it in the dream and you'll be touching an animal for example. I don't know if understand what i mean. It's not the dream that's hurting you, but you're hearting yourself but in your dream your brain makes ti as if an animal bite you or whatever. this is my explanation but however I can't explain how can u hurt yourself so bad that you have a mark the next day u wake up.

[WaaayOutThere]

That is very interesting! So you actually did a sleep clinic and have the evidence? Wow! Kind of lends creedence to the whole "we create our own realities" thing. I once dreamed I was bitten by a spider. When I woke up I had the bite marks on my hand. I always figured that I really had been bitten and my brain just let me know while I was dreaming. Of course, I've been bitten in my sleep on another occasion and dreamed nothing about it. The darned critter bit me on the rear end! Right when I was starting a new job too - I spent the first week at work wanting to do nothing but scratch my a$$!!! Arrrrgh!

[dream kitten]

I knew a guy who told me that ever since he invited this one girl over to his house to hook up, he's been attacked several times while asleep. He told me that he distinctly felt the pressence of something enter his room every now and then, and that it would sit on his bed, and all of the sudden, it would feel like he was choking. When he woke up, he found prints on his neck. He's convinced the girl he invited over had some sex demons attached to her spirit or whatever and that one of them decided to stay at his house. Can this really happen? i believe him but I'm not sure if his explanation is true?

[Ethanescence]

I knew a guy who told me that ever since he invited this one girl over to his house to hook up, he's been attacked several times while asleep. He told me that he distinctly felt the pressence of something enter his room every now and then, and that it would sit on his bed, and all of the sudden, it would feel like he was choking. When he woke up, he found prints on his neck. He's convinced the girl he invited over had some sex demons attached to her spirit or whatever and that one of them decided to stay at his house. Can this really happen? i believe him but I'm not sure if his explanation is true? Sounds just like a variation of sleep paralysis and the old hag syndrome. You get visual and auditory hallucinations sometimes when you're falling asleep. Often times you are paralysed, feel a presence in your bedroom, though you can use your eyes but not your body. The presence is sometimes described as buzzing, fuzzy and dark - hence the description of the demon. The hallucinations usually are described at sitting on your chest, or - as described in your post - as feeling as though you are being choked and around the neck area. This is probably due to the paralysis and your chest not being able to expand and contract with your breathing as it would when you are fully awake. As for the actual "marks", I'm not really sure. I guess it's possible that it's self inflicted during these fearful experiences, or maybe part of the hallucinations themselves (though, this seems unlikely). It's probably something he added into his story to make it more credible so you would believe it. People don't like sharing odd or paranormal stories without also providing physical proof - real or not. So if you can't see the marks on his neck, I think it might be because he added that part in so you would actually believe him. What he's experiencing, he DID experience, though it wasn't actually real and just a natural hallucination - so I guess adding in attributes consciously or subconsciously wouldn't make him feel bad because he knows he's not lying to himself - just trying to convince others that what he experienced wasn't just "a dream".

[WaaayOutThere]

I am one who does believe in these sort of things. I think that malevolent spirits can follow certain people and sometimes bother others if one should have contact with them, but I find this is a fairly rare occurence. It also may or may not be what happened to your friend. As Ethanescence described, it could also be some type of hallucination. Maybe there was something he perceived about this girl that gave him the idea, and it is weighing on his mind. I will add however, that I suffered from severe sleep paralysis for years (from birth practically until my 20's - I don't usually talk about it much though, bad memories). My mom, aunt and others also suffered with it for years. I stopped it for myself finally when I did a prayer/ritual to remove a generational curse that had been placed on the family. It was to send away any bad spirits that might have been associated. All I can say is that it worked. I have not had a single episode of total (and terrifying) sleep paralysis since. Now I do sometimes get the numb tingling feeling and have difficulty waking on occasion, sort of a partial sleep paralysis, but I don't go through the terror that I used to.

[Naiya]

Whatever happened to "dreams can't hurt you?" I feel your pain; I've woken up with injuries from dream battles before, usually bruises and soreness, although once I coughed up some blood (that was a particularly bad one). I also think it's possibly the mind creating the injury because the pain was so realistic during your dream. This same explanation works whether or not you believe in astral projection, since things that happen during AP shouldn't normally affect your physical body, but your spirit/energy body. (However, the two are closely intertwined as long as you are alive, so usually an injury occurring during an astral experience will show up in other ways once you are back in your physical body, most commonly feelings of exhaustion and lack of energy.)