Has anyone ever had an OBE, or done Astral Projection?

**Lightningchild88** · 03-18-2005 05:33 PM

I've heard and learned a lot about this subject and i wanted to know some of peoples actual experiences, or thoughts on it, and if they did AP where did they go

CT · 03-18-2005 05:50 PM

Astral projection is just a lucid dream where you're deluding yourself that you're astral projecting because you think its so exciting and cool and you really really wanna believe it so to you its so real but you forget the fact that you used the exact same method to 'astral project/OBE' as you would induce a LD (yes there's minor differences but at the base it is WILD) but you expect it to be an OBE, and as we all know if you expect something to happen in an LD, it will... dont think about scary monsters becasue they WILL show up in your LD if you think about them, and dont think about the whole silver cord thing that you read on a website because you WILL see it ... just like the monsters because you expect to see it.

**Kaniaz** · 03-18-2005 05:56 PM

Well, yes. In my opinon Astral Projection is basically everything CT's said - an lucid dream/part delusion/part mistake. There's a bunch of websites that claim with passion the exsistence of this, and no proof to back it up with except perhaps some "experiences" or "scientists" saying it's real. Be careful with this, and at the very least don't start believing it to be true yet. Take your time with it - letting some website or guy say it's real isn't good enough.

**Lightningchild88** · 03-18-2005 05:59 PM

But, there have been so many cases of ppl AP'ing and witnessing real time events that actually took place. And what would happen if this was proven to you?

**Kaniaz** · 03-18-2005 06:23 PM

Okay. To start off, I'm going to need to see these numerous cases for them to influence my opinon, for better or worse, and so I can comment on them.

CT · 03-18-2005 07:49 PM

Are those cases well documented, did they follow clear procedures so you can outrule everything else, the only conclusion possible beeing that it has to be AP?
Or are they stories you heard from people, 'testimonies' on websites, etc? These hold no value at all if you're gonna use it in an argument... People believe in weird stupid shit you know, from 'evil spirits' to 'earth creatures' and all that.

**DreamDudeDave** · 03-30-2005 01:04 AM

Astral Projection is far more easier to do then induce a lucid dream. And its also has a realistic quality to it. Lucid dreams are empty. Astral Plane is full of life. And WILDs usually can't be done before bed, but astral projection usually always is done at this time. Enough said.

**Resnemetan** · 04-16-2005 02:48 AM

Hmmmm.... I wonder who the people are that said that they
have astral projected...

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 03:27 AM

Yeah! That is just told I think to scare people, & make them have nightmares. Also, I am too scared to do it, but I am not scared of doing Sci-fis http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....t=13063&start=0

**Darth|Sidious** · 04-16-2005 04:06 AM

omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task

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**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 04:39 AM

Originally posted by Dual Wielder
omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task )

And which task would this be....?

**Darth|Sidious** · 04-16-2005 04:54 AM

what do you think? -_- astral projection is also linked to energy which everything is but you must give up a bit of yours to do this... which makes people frustrated during the practices of psionics... BEACUASE THEY HAVE NO PROOF OR SEEN IT! unless you try it urself like i did and wht i think to have happend but im still a BIG SKEPTIC!

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 05:39 PM

Well, Excuse me! I happen to be thanatophobic, so that's why I don't bother to do it!! I would much rather stay in my dreams, or have a sci-fi (an FA & Realistic WILD seen in my DJ).

**LucidDreamGod** · 04-16-2005 05:53 PM

if I wasn't so skeptical I could say I've done it, but it's all just a dream to me.

one freaky thing that did happen to me is I swore I was awake and I fell asleep right well reading still concious

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 05:59 PM

Originally posted by LucidDreamGod
if I wasn't so skeptical I could say I've done it, but it's all just a dream to me.

one freaky thing that did happen to me is I swore I was awake and I fell asleep right well reading still concious

Yeah! That's happened to me b4. One time, I was struggling to keep awake in class, when I suddenly started having a weird dream that I flew out of the school (okay, & during a sci-fi, I will not respond to comments, at least not in real life). I talked w/Uncle Grant, & flew back to school & to my desk, b/c I thought I was sluffing!

Well, my class told me that I practically fainted during that time, & they could not wake me up. Yes & at 1st, I could have sworn that I was awake!!

**Wicked** · 04-16-2005 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Dual Wielder
omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task )

And now in English?

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Wicked+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wicked)</div>

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omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task )

And now in English?[/b]

You are sure funny!!

, but not as funny as when Cody completely freaks out after gazing at his duplicate, or when he shows me his extended pink sash, like I show him my blue one

!

**Wicked** · 04-16-2005 06:25 PM

Originally posted by nesgirl119+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nesgirl119)</div>

Originally posted by Wicked@
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omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task )

And now in English?

You are sure funny!!

, but not as funny as when Cody completely freaks out after gazing at his duplicate, or when he shows me his extended pink sash, like I show him my blue one

![/b]

I believe this occasion is perfect for reminding you that you are extremely, extremely annoying when you pull stuff out of your "scifi" and other experiences which have nothing to do with the topic.

How about NOT TALKING about your scifi's? Next time you are about to write something about your scifi - don't.

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Wicked+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wicked)</div>

Originally posted by nesgirl119+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nesgirl119)

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<!--QuoteBegin-Dual Wielder

omg kaniaz u odnt believe in psionics -_- y cant you belive all i is is just energy given up to do another task (hard task )

And now in English?

You are sure funny!!

, but not as funny as when Cody completely freaks out after gazing at his duplicate, or when he shows me his extended pink sash, like I show him my blue one

![/b]

I believe this occasion is perfect for reminding you that you are extremely, extremely annoying when you pull stuff out of your \"scifi\" and other experiences which have nothing to do with the topic.

How about NOT TALKING about your scifi's? Next time you are about to write something about your scifi - don't.[/b][/quote]

What....what is so bad about them??? Or is it me?

**LucidDreamGod** · 04-16-2005 08:14 PM

Originally posted by nesgirl119+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nesgirl119)</div>

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if I wasn't so skeptical I could say I've done it, but it's all just a dream to me.

one freaky thing that did happen to me is I swore I was awake and I fell asleep right well reading still concious

Yeah! That's happened to me b4. One time, I was struggling to keep awake in class, when I suddenly started having a weird dream that I flew out of the school (okay, & during a sci-fi, I will not respond to comments, at least not in real life). I talked w/Uncle Grant, & flew back to school & to my desk, b/c I thought I was sluffing!

Well, my class told me that I practically fainted during that time, & they could not wake me up. Yes & at 1st, I could have sworn that I was awake!![/b]

you seem to have alot of intresting experiences, if you don't mind, I would like to learn more about sci-fi's, what are they?

**Gothlark** · 04-16-2005 08:38 PM

Well, Dr. Robert Monroe did experiments at the Monroe Institute which were rather interesting. He had people who claimed to be able to OBE and had a random 8-digit number in another room or in a part of the room impossible for the person to see. I believe it was over a thousand cases where the people came back with the correct 8-digit number or the 8-digit number in reverse. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing, but I figured I'd bring that study up.
On a side note: Nesgirl, don't mind Wicked. It's fine for you to bring up your experiences.

**nesgirl119** · 04-16-2005 09:22 PM

Originally posted by Gothlark
Well, Dr. Robert Monroe did experiments at the Monroe Institute which were rather interesting. He had people who claimed to be able to OBE and had a random 8-digit number in another room or in a part of the room impossible for the person to see. I believe it was over a thousand cases where the people came back with the correct 8-digit number or the 8-digit number in reverse. I'm still skeptical about the whole thing, but I figured I'd bring that study up.
On a side note: Nesgirl, don't mind Wicked. It's fine for you to bring up your experiences.

Well if you seriously want to find out about them (sci-fis), or post about them: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....t=13063&start=0

**Wicked** · 04-16-2005 09:42 PM

Talking about your experiences is fine and dandy, as long as you don't fill EVERY SINGLE POST with them. That's just spamming. I have nothing against your experiences Nesgirl, but I think that if I start to talk about a single thing every time I post, people will soon get tired of it and find it boring.