Thread: Psi Power Tutorials

The first step is always believing that electrokinesis is real.[/b]

Note: This have never been sighted by anyone in the public. [/b]

Basicly, what you're trying to say here, is that if you believe in it you will succeed, you have to have faith in it.
Whatever the sceptics say is wrong, because they are sceptic towards it, so whatever they might come up with you will just roll your eyes and tell them "you dont believe in it so ofcourse for you it wont work"

I would think that if you were a skeptic, you could still suceed in electrokinesis and such. TK is what reqires belief, but, of course, when I started it I was skeptic, you got to have a little faith that its real, but you don't have to be positive.

Originally posted by Placebo
Hey wer.. that meditation technique sounds very near to a self hypnosis technique I use (originally inspired by LDGuy)
I'd add a few steps to it to strengthen it, but its very close

This does lead to a few questions... but please understand I'm not trying to blow holes in your abilities, just taking it to the next 'level' of questions.
I myself believe in a variety of extra-normal powers

If self-hypnosis and meditation are virtually one and the same, and hypnosis has the ability to have us believe things exist/happen that do not.... can it not follow that many meditational psi abilities are purely hypnotically induced illusions?

Of course I don't know whats in your video (is it available yet). And taking a video tape of the experience (if it can be captured in that form ... sound/visuals) would prove whether its an illusion or not

Are those psi balls able to be seen with the naked eye? If so, then I might have a try at it. I just have such difficulty getting a quiet time in my house to do these things :/
I'm still trying to get enough time for my self hypnosis in bed - let alone attempting something like this

Well, no, psi abilities are not an illusion. I've seen tk in action, and, it is real.

Sorry about taking so long to get my video up. I can't figure how to take videos, I can take pictures though, but thats no good. If anyone knows how I could take a video with it, please PM me.

wer, I don't doubt your integrity and belief. But I feel I need to prove it for myself ... properly
A video would help, but another path I'm taking is that I'm practicing it myself.
I'm on psipog a lot now, and going through the exercises

Are you in psipog chat at all?

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Regarding visible psi-balls... My wife and me can see auras, but not too well. She's a whole lot better at it than I am.
While I was forming a psiball yesterday she was staring at it (without me realising it - my eyes were closed)
She says she could see the aura change, and there was an extra layer that stuck out around my solar plexus that she hasnt seen before

Interesting possibility, but definitely not exactly 'proof' for me

I know some other things regarding psi, and most can't be found on the internet. I'm not going to share them, because if they fell into the wrong hands, well, that would be bad. PM me if you want to learn.

Originally posted by wer
I know some other things regarding psi, and most can't be found on the internet. I'm not going to share them, because if they fell into the wrong hands, well, that would be bad. PM me if you want to learn.

WTF? Fall into the wrong hands. What do you know that could fall into the wrong hands and cause trouble?

If you're able to acchieve these powers, dont you think it will be just as easy for those so called 'wrong hands' to achieve the same thing? Or, once again, are you something really special?

Originally posted by CT
If you're able to acchieve these powers, dont you think it will be just as easy for those so called 'wrong hands' to achieve the same thing? Or, once again, are you something really special?

Anyone can do them, they just don't know how. And, powerful things such as jing, would be considered for use in combat, which I'm againist.

damn hippie

be nice now.

Originally posted by CT
something more usefull: www.randi.org

Lol that's not very nice either. /sarcasm

But... its not a personal attack!~!!!

wer... I'm intrigued, but to be honest you don't sound 'genuine'
Of course I cannot judge you on that, as I do not know you.
In your opinion, I'm obviously wrong

I have some very small TK ability right now that I'm strengthening.
Once I have more convincing skills - I don't mind posting a video of it here.
Of course, people (eg Kaniaz) will still tell me I 'cheated', but to be honest, I couldnt give a damn in the 'prove it' arena.
Sceptics will be sceptics... eternally...

Most people on this site knows me to be an honest person by now (I hope)

Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>

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Are those psi balls able to be seen with the naked eye?

Apparently you can't, unless you spend years trying or something.[/b]

Hahaha! I finaly found out what to do. You need to flare it, though I havn't suceeded in that yet .

Go to http://www.psipog.net, under articles, and then under other in Psi Minipulation, I think.

I found a site covering pyrokinesis and a whole bunch of other stuff, it's the website of satan worshippers... but whatever.
The link is is here.

Originally posted by Placebo
Of course, people (eg Kaniaz) will still tell me I 'cheated', but to be honest, I couldnt give a damn in the 'prove it' arena.

Depends, obviouslyslsly.

Sceptics will be sceptics... eternally... [/b]

It's not a bad thing.

Most people on this site knows me to be an honest person by now (I hope)[/b]

Yeah, your oidnest, I know - you wouldn't gain alot by lying, but I think it's of note than in alot of cases I don't think the person is lying: it's just you can always see what you want to see.

Of course, people (eg Kaniaz) will still tell me I 'cheated', but to be honest, I couldnt give a damn in the 'prove it' arena.

Depends, obviouslyslsly.

Depends on what? If I can move a floating needle or toothpick floating in water, in a sealed container, and not touching the desk. After decharging any static on a bathroom tap. The distance from my fingertips will be at least 5 cm.
Is that enough? I'm no expert, but so far thats what I can do.
Or will moving a rock the size of my head be better (not gonna happen soon)

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Most people on this site knows me to be an honest person by now (I hope)

Yeah, your oidnest, I know - you wouldn't gain alot by lying, but I think it's of note than in alot of cases I don't think the person is lying: it's just you can always see what you want to see.

When I can consistently move that needle/toothpick in the direction I choose, from a distance... and I'm not talking 1 degree - I'm talking full revolutions (eg. one rev over a slow speed of 1 or 2 mins). Ie one direction, then the other, and back again. No static. No wind. 5cm at least (unlikely to be heat convection).... any thoughts or crits are completely welcome (as long is its polite)
I'm no expert, but its a start for me.

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Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)

Originally posted by Placebo
Of course, people (eg Kaniaz) will still tell me I 'cheated', but to be honest, I couldnt give a damn in the 'prove it' arena.

Depends, obviouslyslsly.
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Depends on what? If I can move a floating needle or toothpick floating in water, in a sealed container, and not touching the desk. After decharging any static on a bathroom tap. The distance from my fingertips will be at least 5 cm.
Is that enough? I'm no expert, but so far thats what I can do.
Or will moving a rock the size of my head be better (not gonna happen soon)
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I'm not expert either. If I was some phiscian (worst. spelling. ever) scientist bloke, I'd be able to say what you'd need to do to make it impossible for it to be something other than telekinesis, or whatever. But I'm not. This forum could really do with one, y'know.

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Most people on this site knows me to be an honest person by now (I hope)

Yeah, your oidnest, I know - you wouldn't gain alot by lying, but I think it's of note than in alot of cases I don't think the person is lying: it's just you can always see what you want to see.

When I can consistently move that needle/toothpick in the direction I choose, from a distance... and I'm not talking 1 degree - I'm talking full revolutions (eg. one rev over a slow speed of 1 or 2 mins). Ie one direction, then the other, and back again. No static. No wind. 5cm at least (unlikely to be heat convection).... any thoughts or crits are completely welcome (as long is its polite)
I'm no expert, but its a start for me.[/b][/quote]

Okay then. A PsiPog tutorial outlines that, to do telekinesis (which I'll assume is what we'd call what you're doing), you need to:

Step 1: Prepare yourself

Before you try to do TK it’s very important to have your mind clear. Think about it as a computer. Your mind is the RAM memory. Telekinesis requires 100% of this RAM. Now if your mind is full with other stuff, like the party tomorrow afternoon , you can’t provide the whole memory, which means you can’t pay the whole attention you have. And if you have read the theories you know how important it is.

Energy flows where attention goes. Just remember it for now. You don’t have enough power if there are other things in your mind. [/b]

And it goes on, you have to \"become one\", etc, etc.

And as far as I can tell, you're not doing any of this, but still moving a needle on a peice of paper.

So if you're right, then this tutorial here is wrong. Right?

It is when they won't even consider the possibility from any angle. They don't discuss it, they attack it. [/b]

And this is bad why?

Originally posted by Kaniaz

And it goes on, you have to \"become one\", etc, etc.

And as far as I can tell, you're not doing any of this, but still moving a needle on a peice of paper.

So if you're right, then this tutorial here is wrong. Right?

No, not at all. I just find that making a connection to the needle a lot easier now.
And I dont force anything, its a very passive sensation - going through multiple channels/steps. Like knocking a pool ball into a hole with a trick shot of 4 previous balls, in sequence. Takes some concentration.

In any case, I believe that 'oneness' and connection is simply a means to fully feel what needs to be done.
I don't control every little thing - it feels as if I'm going via areas of my brain I do not control easily
Thats why it takes practice

Originally posted by Kaniaz

It is when they won't even consider the possibility from any angle. They don't discuss it, they attack it.

And this is bad why? [/b]

Because they aren't objective at all, and cause unnecessary damage to something they are unable to disprove for sure

And it goes on, you have to \"become one\", etc, etc.

And as far as I can tell, you're not doing any of this, but still moving a needle on a peice of paper.

So if you're right, then this tutorial here is wrong. Right?

No, not at all. I just find that making a connection to the needle a lot easier now.
And I dont force anything, its a very passive sensation - going through multiple channels/steps. Like knocking a pool ball into a hole with a trick shot of 4 previous balls, in sequence. Takes some concentration.

In any case, I believe that 'oneness' and connection is simply a means to fully feel what needs to be done.
I don't control every little thing - it feels as if I'm going via areas of my brain I do not control easily
Thats why it takes practice

What are you trying to say? I've lost the thread of discussion here.

It is when they won't even consider the possibility from any angle. They don't discuss it, they attack it.

And this is bad why?

Because they aren't objective at all, and cause unnecessary damage to something they are unable to disprove for sure[/quote]

Not really, people are prone to believe anything written in writing. On the internet, I could prop up a page about a "serious virus threat called BizzleBottle", and if I dressed it up enough, some people out there - perhaps not alot, but still some - would get alarmed, try and "prepare their systems", and basically waste time on something that dosen't exist. Basically, just taking that peice of writing for being perfectly true.

If people look at "faith healing" websites - this dosen't really apply to telekinesis, and other things like that - and then take it for it's word and sit there attempting to say, heal an wound, instead of going to a doctor, they can cause unneccessary harm and probably make the wound worse, if it's bad enough. If however on the same site there was a bunch of people saying "Well, I don't believe in it because <lalalala>", then that person may still try faith healing, obviously, but at least they'll have doubts about it. Not following things blindly because "this person on a website says it works" is a good thing.

By all means, try telekinesis, sunkinesis, werewolf morphing, mind reading, icekinesis or telepathy or ESP or whatever, but instead of believing it right out, and attributing something to physic stuff because an rational explanation can't be immediately discovered, and actually calling it telekinesis or whatever, keep some skepticism with you. If we followed blindly everything somebody else told us, imagine the carnage. This isn't directed at you, Placebo, you're a smart enough person, but I guess everybody in general. n_n

k, now you can all tell me you "do that already".

I do that already

I already do that

Nah seriously... I agree that sceptics are necessary to make sure that the more gullible of us don't start going off on a tangent.
However, the sceptics cannot/should not go to the point of claiming something to be impossible... as they cannot prove it from their side.
Sceptical *should* mean being objective about something and looking for all the possible explanations, quantifying things and coming out with likely explanations - but staying open minded to changes.

I have no problem with someone pointing out 'Oh, maybe its just heat causing convection currents from your fingertips?'. Thats a GOOD sceptical statement. A BAD one would be a belligerent one such as 'What a load of rot. You're obviously cheating cos theres no explanation (I can think of) to do that (which I dont understand anyway). So stop misleading everyone.'

Theres a variety of greys of good/bad sceptics. James Randi is a belligerent, unobjective sort, for example.
I even consider myself a sceptic, in fact. My best friend is a sceptic. And I've run this whole telekinesis story by him, and he's very intrigued. However he's very critical too. And I can't honestly blame him or anyone else - that makes him a good sceptic.

Good. I'm glad this mini-argument worked out. Actually, I'm glad that my argument actually made sense.

listen i'm new and know little but one thing i do know is that the best way to clear the mind is sleep when you wake up it is just so peacful (somtimes)