Thread: Werewolfs

Auir Contrare.... Has anyone done any research on Multiple Personality Disorders? If you do you will find that not only are there vocal and mannerism changes with the given personality in control, but changes in scar tissue, eye color, and pathologies such as diabetes as well.

"The mind is everything. What you think, you become." The Buddha

"As a man thinketh, so he is." Proverbs: The Bible

NobleGaz-There's a difference between a change in eye color and growing fangs and excessive hair all over your body. A change in eye color is simply a change in pigmint (sp...I'm no bio major). Scar tissue doesn't change dramatically, either. There may be a difference, but not an amazingly clear one.
Morphing into a werewolf on the other hand would involve massive changes in bone structure, hair growth, teeth and other body parts. That isn't so simple to explain.

"There are more things Horatio in heaven and earth, than can be dreamt of in your philosophy."

Well we could move on from Multiple Personality Disorder, to Faith Healing and how science supports it with examples of "The Placebo Effect". Hisotrical cases of terminal illnesses being cured not by medicine but by the Placebe Effect or Faith, can be found. Both with the innocuous sugar pill and hypnotism. Indeed every day people are cured of various disorders through faith, further supporting the illustration the Matrix gives us on screen. Do you doubt the abilities of the Eastern Gurus and Yogi's outright?

Wer may be obsessed with these issues to his deficit rather than his credit. Before we call him Schizoid though, we should contemplate what Quanum Physics is bringing out after many decades. Did you know that a 5th dimension and the "Hyperspacial" were already being postulated in the 1920's? We ought all to remember too that at the atomic level, and from that perspective, solid matter is mostly empty space. It is the spin and vibration of the atomic and sub atomic particles,(which it seems are a result of waveform), that give us the perspective and "iillusion" of solidarity.
"What is real? How do you define real? If you are talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see,then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."
(Morpheus from the movie The Matrix )
Again, because we are all very similiar physiologically and caught up in this "Matrix" there are things that are normal, and there are things that are not part of the norm. Because things are not part of the norm, does not mean they do not, or cannot exist or are impossible. If you think so then you are in denial of Obe's and NDE's.
And if you are then I might point out how both adults and children have reported accurately observing their rescuers while their bodies were submerged underwater. Explain how their brains have picked up auditory data which was the cause of hallucination, when their bodies were underwater.
From the IONS Journal archives:
"We see the ground beneath our feet; we can pick up a rock, and throw it through the air; we feel the heat from a fire, and smell its burning wood. It feels as if we are in direct contact with the world "out there."
But this is not so. The colors, textures, smells, and sounds we experience are not really "out there"; they are all images of reality constructed in the mind. " In other words the brain is doing the interpretation of the waveform which really is what is "out there".

You're looking into a wading pool and imagining deep waters.

It's this simple: Physically, it is IMPOSSIBLE to transform into a werewolf. PERIOD. If you can explain it with VALID physics, I'll accept it. That junk about a 5th demension is crap. At least the way you phrased it. Look: There are more than 4 dimensions. That is proven. BUT these demensions are so incredibly tiny that they are pointless to include in a RELEVANT explanation for most anything on anything but a microscopic scale. Imagine them to be like a straw:

On a 3-Demensional straw, only two coordinates are needed to find a point:
1 Location relative to the top and bottom of the straw
2 Position around the circumfrence of the straw

This is because the third demension (thickness of the straw) is so small that it doesn't matter. So imagine these other dimensions to be like a straw, only nearly infinitely thinner.

And the placebo effect is just like the other things you've mentioned: Too small to affect this situation. Yes, a placebo effect can heal someone. Even someone with a terminal illness. BUT IT CAN'T CHANGE YOU INTO A FREAKIN' WEREWOLF!

Now, I'm not denying OBE's or NDE's, but I'm definitely a skeptic on both. However, they both do not relate to this subject in any relevant way, so why did you bring them up? They're not compareable to werewolfs in this situation, and whether it isn't or is possible to change into a werewolf has NOTHING to do with whether it's possible to have an OBE or NDE.

Well, from what I have heard anyway, werewolfs do have a connection with astral projecting and OBEs. Many reports I have heard of shape shifting, included astral shifting, and shifting out of body.

Really? Werewolves have a connection to OBE's and APing. can i see some evidence

You see, from what I heard, shifting in a projection is only possible if you've been that animal in a past life. At least thats what I heard.

If hyperspace is the state apart from time, then what is reincarnation in light of that? Eliminate time and what have you got?

Also Tsen, you wrote: "There are more than 4 dimensions. That is proven. BUT these demensions are so incredibly tiny that they are pointless to include in a RELEVANT explanation for most anything on anything but a microscopic scale."

Hyperspace is the state apart from time, and space as we think of it. You are talking about size, which has to do with space. (And time, and gravity since we know since Einstien they are all interconnected.)

Which too would be thinking "out of the box" which is not what you are doing.

There's a difference between 'thinking out of the box' and 'thinking out of your mind'.

So this 'superspace' is a dimension, but is seperate from the other dimensions? Then how could it give the other dimensions mass? If I'm understanding you correctly, then you're saying that they've got the additional mass hidden away in this 'superspace' until they shape-shift. Is this correct? If not, clarify yourself.

Explain mass please. What is mass? Your definition.

Mass is matter. When there's matter, there's mass. More matter, more mass. Get it? Simple. I mean, look it up in a dictionary. That's my definition.

Great, thankyou I appreciate that.

So now we address what is matter, really.
You do agree that at the atomic levels matter is mostly empty space, involving charge, vibration, frequencies, spin of the subatomic particles yes?

"As early as 1916, Einstein was busy exploring the possibility that gravity is not a "force" at all, but rather one of the observable properties of "spacetime" itself; the force that underlies and governs all of the other forces in what we consider to be "our" universe ....
"going one step further, he speculated that what we know as substance, or "matter," is in reality only a local phenomenon exhibited by areas of extreme field energy concentration. In more simple terms he chose to view matter as a product of energy rather than the reverse, and in doing so dared to reject the long standing concept that the two are separate entities that exist side by side."
(From the book Antigravity and the Unified Field)

In respect to Morpheus' statement in "The Matrix" about what is real being based on Electrical Activity:

"Since the components of the physical body involve electrical charge, their movement results in the emission of electromagnetic (EM) waves. "Thus, the movement of electrons in atoms leads to emission in the ultraviolet, the movement of atoms in molecules creates emissions in the infrared, the movement of molecules in cell membranes leads to emission in the microwave range while the movement of cells in muscles and body organs generates emission in the radar and radio frequency ranges. The larger is the entity causing charge displacement, the lower is the frequency of the EM energy emission" (Tiller, 1995). OUTER AND INNER LIGHT
( http://www.fmbr.org/abstracts/outer-inner.htm )

So, energy or light (including all spectrums of light, some of which are invisible to us due to our limited physiology)is the basis and foundation of everything we consider real and material, which also involves concepts of time, space, gravity.

P.S. Are you Dreaming?

I aint even gonna read every post all im going to say is that I'd like to prove some of you wrong!!.. but I can't and humans transforming into anything else *physically* (werewolfs) ehm.. BullS***.

Unless there is another einstein out ther that would bother explainging to me, and me regarding this person as an individual that does in fact make sense more than me.. I still would regard werewolfs being some ballons from the music video Thriller by a shapeshifter himself Michael Jackman (my lil bro calls him dat, soo sweet), i wouldnt even bother listening to nothing else which is regarded *scientific* i know it might sound off-topic but i mean the beginning post really did make me laugh

Well I would think one Eisnstein would be enough for you. Someone else quoted him as saying "Reality is only an illusion, albeit a very persistant one." That was decades ago, and we've progressed since.

So we talked about miracles and "The Placebo Effect". Also the sometimes dramatic changes in Multiple Personality Disorder. But you need to post limits. That is your perspective.

We see things very similiarly because of our similiar physiology with its similiar capabilities and limitations. But we are told reality, (time, space, and gravity), are perspectives on our parts.

Reality is a result and perspctive of our conciousness in this physical world, what we percieve basically through our brains. But it is flexible.

This is probably why that though there have been many reports and sightings...the public will not actually know about anti-gravity propulsion until those in control of it are ready. Its not just about transporting things really really fast. Its a manipulation of the very fabric of what we consider reallity. If you have an anti gravity situation, you are also involving time and space.

An interesting book I read not too long ago was "Autobiography of a Yogi". He tells about his childhood in India, and the changes that took place...his finding of his teacher and the various miracles which occurred. Earning a degree, quoting Einstein and sharing how what he learned from his teacher relates to Quantum Physics.
It was written in the 1940's.

You, my friend, are an IDIOT. Matter is not light. Light is not matter. Nor is electronic radiation of any kind. They are related, but they are not the same thing. They could even be considered the same thing, but in a different form. But they're not the same. Ice is frozen water, but water is not ice. Ice is not water. They are closely related, and perhaps light and matter are equally or more so, but they are still not the same thing. You can't touch light. You can't see matter. They have different properties, so they are not equal. So what does your argument really come to? Nothing, as of yet. Try putting things into context a bit more. Then try getting a realy clue as to what the world is. Then you might be able to reason correctly.